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r/bladeandsoul•
dassadys

Summoner (bees) damage question

Question

Hey,

I've done the event on my summoner alt which uses the bee spec.

Now with gc5 and all the stuff from box 1-10 and a pink badge I can only pull of about 700k dps with good square gilded gems. Am I doing something wrong or is this normal for this spec? Im using my 3 and then spamming 2,f,lmb,rmb.

My bm, destro and archer are doing way more damage with alot lower gear... And my sf is doing about the same damage with an raven 3 wep and Story gear + vt badge

Would appreciate help

Posted Apr 4, 2020, 10:13 PM UTC

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ShinyRukii•

When playing Swarm you can not just play macro and dps. Swarm needs a lot of manual inputs and training in order to deal good damage. Just spamming a macro loses like half the dps due to stacking bracelet progs, stacking the liberty progs and losing Thorn Strike to due spamming F or 3.

Having a Summoner as an alt, one should probably play Thorns due to this being "simply macro-able" compared to the science behind Swarm rotation.

http://bns.academy/summoner/ has a good guide to both specs.

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dassadysOP:BM:•

Thanks for the guide. I dont think im that good at keeping the right buffs up all the time, but I changed my macro and I am using F now manualy. My dps already imporved. Here is my Parse:

https://i.imgur.com/MBZHeXt.jpg

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ShinyRukii•

Playing Swarm needs a lot of patience and training to get the most out of it. I personally like playing it though since I had fun learning it.

At the end of the guide is a parse calculator. If you ever want to find out how well you are doing in your rotation you can fill your parse values in there and compare them to the optional values.

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dassadysOP:BM:•

I put the values in the calculator and it says my lmb/rmb is even above "max for most"

but my Thornstrike needs improvement .. it says "Higher is better 0.33-0.45 with Aransu and Wildborne."

and my Thornstrike rate is at 0.335.

How can I improve the thornstrike rate?

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UnikeOG•

By managing your badge proc better (liberty one), you proc the liberty effect (if you have liberty badge or one if the legendary badges that come from it) by using 30 RMBs while buffed by your 3 and/or by using F(flying nettles) 3 times. Once the liberty effect procs, your RMBs will decrease the cooldown on your thorn strikes.

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FartingRaspberry•

Are you macroing the rotation? What's your ping? Can you share a parse so we can see skill ratios? What shield set are you using? Is it properly fused? There's so many factors that are up in the air.

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dassadysOP:BM:•

Here is the parse:

https://i.imgur.com/MBZHeXt.jpg

Ping is 21ms

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FartingRaspberry•

Well your skill ratios look ok but your crit is incredibly low. You need way more crit. Try to reroll shields and fuse crit. Keep doing cs/mandate for unity stones and pray for crit rolls. The basic blue stones (top row) give like 134 a piece for blue rarity. Thornstrike is a heavy hitter and almost 30% of them are not critting.

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dassadysOP:BM:•

thanks for the feedback, ill do that :)

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SamuraiZero4•

most games don't like macros, does B&S allow them?

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GibRarz•

Wind summoner rotation pretty much relies on their g skill to do burst. It's basically their version of other classes' 1 minute tab skill. And then you have to properly stack the soul badge effect with the mystic badge effect.

This is with my summoner in f12 doing 800k using a9 and gilded triangles from a while ago.

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dassadysOP:BM:•

thanks for the hint. Im using G as an opener now :) Here is my new Parse:

https://i.imgur.com/MBZHeXt.jpg

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dassadysOP:BM:•

After checking the bns academy link I improved my dps a bit. Here is the Parse:

https://i.imgur.com/MBZHeXt.jpg

Is there still room for improvment with this gear?

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