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ForgottenMemes

Are you inadvertently falling into a jewish trap?

The whole point of feminism, as clearly stated by the Frankfurt School, is to drive men and women apart. A divide and conquer strategy targeted at the very core of society. By destroying the family and the male/female relationship jews have completely crippled western society.

Now more and more alt-right men and women are falling into this trap. Simp, incel, thot, etc. Your enemies want nothing more than for you to in-fight. Statements like "Women have no place in the movement" don't seem productive to me. Perhaps women shouldn't be leaders, but there needs to be a place for women, children and elderly.

While slut shaming is a valid tactic, it seems to me it shouldn't be the only one. More important is creating a perception that the trad life is far more fulfilling and enjoyable than whoring around.

Any ideas on how to more effectively do this?

Posted Apr 6, 2020, 6:45 PM UTC

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When I see degeneracy I call it out, wether it is thots, simps, sodomites or anyone else

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Found the religious group.

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A society that pits it's men against its women has no future.

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A society that fails to shame it's degenerates has no future.

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I care only about the biological survival of whites. In an age where nearly nobody is honestly religious, to insist on making a stand on religion is a disingenuous attempt at splitting the movement, something that reeks of z0g subversion and comes only from american mouths. I was born in a christian catholic country. Absolutely zero people mention their religion as grounds for their political choices. Face it, nobody cares about god; least of all those who would use it as buttress for their own hypocritical views. None of you are faithful and none of you will ever live up to these standards. You are either foolish or intent on stopping us from the inside.

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

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Now more and more alt-right men and women are falling into this trap. Simp, incel, thot, etc. Your enemies want nothing more than for you to in-fight.

Ok, but have you considered that that maybe there are actually valid reasons to fight?

What incentive do incels and incel-types have to care about females? And conversely, what incentive do women have to care about these men?

The damage done to divide the genders is just too big. I don't see this resolving itself healthily.

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Without a focus on healthy male/female relationships you can't have a healthy next generation. Feminism is fairly well debunked and delegitimized. There are plenty of women looking for a healthy alternative. But they have to work on deprogramming themselves. MGTOW are in the same boat. Isn't it best to lead by example and show them what they can have if they work for it?

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SuburbanYuteFascist•

its an effort to shame people into good behavior.

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LateknightttPirate•

Women have no place as leaders of men, They can lead women however. There’s a place for all of Gods creatures a natural order that has nothing to do with Jewish treachery.

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there needs to be a place for women

There is a place for women. IN THE HOME. Not on the internet posting their hot takes, not on the streets protesting. At home. That's the way it's always been, that is simply the natural order of things.

This role is just as important as the man's role. They take care of the home and the kids while the man is out, bringing home the bacon. This is how you build a healthy family, a healthy country, and it's also how you build a healthy movement.

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DaLaohuCatholic•

Do you have a problem with Lana Lokteff?

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Do I have a problem with going against nature? Yes. I know very little about her views (because I don't care), but she seems to be on our side, mostly. She and a few other women like her who already have an online following could be useful assets in the short term, but in the long run we have to abide by a simple rule: No women in the movement.

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soliturtle•

Not on the internet posting their hot takes,

Isn't that usually done from the home?

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Posting on the internet is the same as going out into the town square and giving a speech, but with the potential of reaching millions of people.

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soliturtle•

Not really.

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Ly_84•

I agree. Especially since women move large volumes of men, and are far more defensive / reactionary than men. Compare a woman's disgust reaction to a man's, and marvel at the hitherto hidden fascism.

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ForgottenMemesOP•

Yep, unity and playing to strengths is the path to success. News channels used to understand that having a pretty woman and a dapper man cooperate to present the story drew in far more eyeballs.

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WesternZealot•

"Women have no place in the movement"

I've never seen anyone say this.

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ForgottenMemesOP•

Almost no fringe political group in history has ever needed the support of the majority of women.

This was the most upvoted response to a post a few weeks ago. While true, it seems like a counter productive attitude. A better attitude is how to best make use of women who are interested in your group.

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WesternZealot•

But that isn't what you claimed was being said.

Almost no fringe political group in history has ever needed the support of the majority of women.

The purpose of that statement is to say that we shouldn't be blackpilled from the fact that there are significantly more men than women in our movement. It's not to say that we don't want more women in our movement or that we don't value them.

Your thread is giving the impression that sex relations in the Alt-Right are worse than they are, which can only have the effect of actually making them worse than they were in the first place. It looks like a D&C op.

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ForgottenMemesOP•

Well, I have heard it said, but I can't think of any examples off the bat.

It looks like a D&C op.

How many D&C ops involve working on improving unity?

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SuburbanYuteFascist•

it is an inherently patriarchal movement though.

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WesternZealot•

I wouldn't say "inherently". You could be a White Nationalist who believes society should be structured as a matriarchy. You would be accepted in our movement.

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SuburbanYuteFascist•

we're in different movements then. the movement i'm in understands gender roles and embraces them.

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WesternZealot•

Fuentes is not an Alt-Righter, but even he doesn't say women don't belong in his Nicker movement. He says women shouldn't be e-girls and men shouldn't give attention to e-girls.

I think most Alt-Righters would disagree with that as a blanket statement and would say there is a way women can be online content producers in a way that is healthy; and also that attractive, female Alt-Right e-celebs have probably done more for our movement in the last 5 years than our men did in decades previous to it.

I think most Alt-Righters have a stripped-down, biology-based understanding of sex roles, as opposed to the traditionalist/religious systems of the past that were full of artificial restrictions. I think most Alt-Righters would say that as long as a woman spends her fertile years at home producing lots of white babies and taking care of them, and as long as they (women) dress and act feminine and subordinate themselves to male leadership, then they can do just about whatever they want in terms of hobbies, activism, and a career.

I encourage all white women to start producing White Nationalist videos on Youtube.

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KiIIing_Joke•

You literally do not need women just take what is yours and the women fall in line.

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masowipigawets•

Feminism is mainly women and that's had a very real impact on society. I wouldn't dismiss women having any role in this movement as they can clearly be influential.

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KiIIing_Joke•

Those in power wanted feminism - that is the only reason it succeeded.

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masowipigawets•

Sure they allowed it, but that's very black and white thinking

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masowipigawets•

Complaining about sluts or thots or whatever isn't a great strategy imo. Work on being a high value man and clearly state your preferences but don't go out of your way to talk negatively about low value women.

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AdventurousLeopard•

The Left want you to hate white ( Conservative ) Men.

The Right want you to hate white ( Liberal ) Woman .

Thus in the end white women stop chasing white men and marry blacks , Asians . White men stop chasing white women and marry Asians , Latinos , e.tc ,

In the end no more white babies . The left & right is part of this white replacement plan.

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Perhaps women shouldn't be leaders, but there needs to be a place for women, children and elderly.

This is the problem right there. It's one of the reasons I'm not really alt right. I just disagree with them on too many things. This hostility towards women and patronizing view of them is idiotic. It has nothing to do with trying to be a white knight. Very few people would join a movement that sees them as second class citizens or subservient.

I often wonder if a lot of the people espousing this incel/MGTOW mentality are trolls. If it is a trap, its one the alt right flocks to like mosquitos to a bug zapper.

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