Ever realize that Cinder is just a Female Zuko? He wields fire, she wields fire. Both got an eye Scar. Both have Black Hair. But Cinder has the personality of Azula. Oh- also she likes to use dual swords just like Zuko until she got all Full Maiden.
Posted Apr 7, 2020, 6:13 AM UTC
Zuko actually had character development xD
Easier to see when you're at the end of it.
Assuming 12 volumes total, (another 1 in Atlas 2 in Vaocou and another 2 in Vale once more) were a little more than halfway through at which point Zuko was about to piss off the audience by sliding back on all the progress he had made
Yeah, but he made progress.
With a lot of help and chances
Yup, but he still made progress. Cinder has done nothing but evilly laugh
Except Zuko was never really a villain.
Cinder still duel wields and her role in the story so far is similar to Zukos in terms of how she has her own story running parallel to the villains but not entirely on the same agenda.
She definitely is closer to Azula in personality in terms of being cruel and power hungry but her frustrations and insecurity lines more up with Zuko.
Azula really only fell apart right at the end, her confidence and calm under pressure wasn't an act like Cinder who also doesn't have the insanity excuse
Yeah. It’s like Cinder is just insane for the idea of being insane, it’s like random fits unlike Tyrian- somehow it makes Tyrian seem more sane since he still follows orders willingly and can actually go with plans really well.
Cinders pretty good with plans too. Haven was just a terrible one that needed adapted. And unlike Tyrian/Watts Cinder could see when she was being baited.
And I don't think she's insane. I think she's just like Zuko if he didn't have an Iroh. Let's not forget Zuko once yelled at the sky to strike him
Fair enough. But it seems like she lost her planning capabilities. Neo got back the Relic, and she severely underestimates everyone she faces. That’s probably why she didn’t even try at Haven. She lost the support of Adam, Salem, and her Retainers after that and she is angry at Ruby for some reason. Also- since she is a Maiden, why couldn’t she notice Raven when she faked Vernal using Maiden Powers when in reality it was Raven? As another Maiden, why didn’t she just test it? Launching an attack at Raven, if they only needed the Spring Maiden to unlock the Mistral Relic. It just makes sense to me if they were gonna betray her anyways. She understimated them. And she really hasn’t done anything worthwhile besides fighting Winter and other than that, Neo did all the work with infiltrating Atlas and stealing the Relic back. Also Watts and Tyrian were probably the greatest duo i’ve witnessed in Evil Plan history.
Neo got back the Relic, and she severely underestimates everyone she faces.
Because of Cinders planning and cashing Ironwood to go crazy giving Neo the opportunity. Neo got to come in right at the end and do the easiest bit. Even then, had Atlas not turned on JNR and Oscar, she would have failed.
That’s probably why she didn’t even try at Haven.
Yes she did. She was one fight away from utterly securing Salem's victory. She didn't believe Ravens suggestion of an alliance but didn't have much choice but to go a long with it because of Salem.
Her only mistake at Haven was not seeing who was really Spring which while a mistake wasn't exactly easy to see.
Also- since she is a Maiden, why couldn’t she notice Raven when she faked Vernal using Maiden Powers when in reality it was Raven?
How? Magic doesn't work that way. She couldn't just attack, that's what she wanted to do. Salem told her to get Raven on side and that's why Cinder struggled. She had nothing to offer Raven, only empty threats.
It just makes sense to me if they were gonna betray her anyways.
And she clearly saw that too. She planned and struck first, only after it was obvious she wasn't getting the vault open first.
Also Watts and Tyrian were probably the greatest duo i’ve witnessed in Evil Plan history.
The moment the heroes knew they were there, they were taken down instantly.
Also, Jaune is White Sokka.
And Marrow is just...Sokka.
More like Azula.
Yes. Most western cartoons attempt to recreate the greatness of Avatar.
Yeah but Zuko isn't a joke.
Exactly
Fair enough