Found in my zoom meeting, somebody doesn't know how AA works
Posted Apr 11, 2020, 3:01 AM UTC
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Facepalm... I just ...wow. Not appropriate!
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They're on YouTube, too. Celebrities hire them to whisper in their ear 24/7. Canadian guy chaperoning celebrities is a funny one, 50k a week.
Feel sorry sorry for them, tbh. 'If you take the money you'll take the drink', as we say in AA.
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This guy may not even be an alcoholic and worse he could be looking for new clients $$$
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Maybe not, but theoretically they do know a lot about recovery, and assuming they’re credentialed, probably in a way that’s more evidence based than AA.
Just because AA works doesn’t mean it’s the only thing that does or that it only works by itself.
Edit: I want to be very clear here because this is getting some attention. I am in no way intending to demean AA or it’s effectiveness. I’m closing in on 3 years myself and attend meetings regularly. What I take issue with, however, is the nature of many of AA’s members to gatekeep sobriety.
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Right??!!!? See also: Meta analysis—ie many studies with converging results!
Science validates what we alcoholics have known for decades. 🙄
Good intentions dont matter, we have traditions
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Exactly... It doesn’t get much clearer than: Alcoholics Anonymous should remain forever nonprofessional...
Bullshit. Good intentions absolutely matter.
Tell me which tradition tells us to blast someone in a public forum for a behavior we don’t like? Which tradition tells us to call out other’s wrongdoings? Whose sobriety are you helping by posting this thread? Yours? Mine?
O jeeze where do i start, tradition 1,8? Men with men women with women?
By claiming professional sobriety vs sobriety is unnecessary and divisive.
He also didnt identify as an alcoholic, identified as "grateful person in recovery" some "special" people are just making up rules as they go.
The road of destruction is paved with good intentions
Nowhere in AA literature does it require someone to identify as an alcoholic, only that a person have a desire to stop drinking. Some people have an issue labeling themselves an alcoholic, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Men with men and women with women is never expressly states anywhere in the traditions either. It’s something that groups established to try and keep predatory a-holes from thirteenth stepping vulnerable newcomers.
I will give you that he definitely went against tradition 8, but my question was directed at your behavior not his. If traditions are so important, where in our literature, steps, or traditions does it say that we should call other people on the carpet or make examples of bad behavior?
Amen brother.