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Arkoonius

I Have Concerns About the Cosmos

Question

I've been wanting to getting into VR for a few years and it hasn't been until now that I'm in the position where I can afford one and it won't be a huge hit to personal funds. The Vive Pro and Index are my initial picks, but both are out of stock. I'd be waiting at least 2 months for an index and I've no idea when the Vive Pro will be in stock again (though in the mean time I do have an order for the index in place).

On the possibility of not waiting for months I'm somewhat considering grabbing a Cosmos Elite, but I am unsure of what limitations the Cosmos has in relation to a Vive/Index. From what I assume, the Cosmos is HTC's answer to the Oculus Quest, which I believe to be some kind of standalone VR that doesn't require a (powerful) computer. I have a 7700k and a 2070 GPU. Not top top tier, but decent hardware that should suffice. I'm worried about not being able to play the games I want simply because the Cosmos can't run it due to hardware limitations. I'm mostly posting this because I'm unsure of the differences and whether or not I'm just making wrong assumptions or misunderstanding something.

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For reference, I don't have a huge play area and will be limited to just sitting or standing in one spot, and the hardware in my PC is definitely VR-ready.

Posted Apr 16, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

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Jdodds1•

The cosmos isn’t a stand alone, it’s a pc headset.

The original cosmos uses inside out tracking like the rift s and has ring style controllers similar to oculus touch

The cosmos elite uses the same tracking technology as the valve index, comes with a set of vive wands, and is compatible with the valve knuckle controllers

I would suggest getting the elite because the tracking is better

The main pro to the cosmos is the available wireless adapter, which I have and can say works perfectly

The main downside is the very small sweet spot making it fairly difficult to get it focused properly

All in all, if both were available I’d say get an index, but since there’s no telling when it’ll be back in stock, I can say I enjoy my cosmos just fine and play for several hours a day in it

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ArkooniusOP•

Ok, it being standalone was pretty much the main concern so thanks for the input. But of the focusing, what exactly do you mean by that? Are you talking about in terms of the visuals, making things not blurry? I do have to wear glasses (which I should have mentioned). From what I've read both the Index and Vive are "glasses-compatible" for the most part so I would assume the Cosmos is the same.

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Jdodds1•

Pretty much every headset is glasses compatible. The lenses of vr headsets have to be positioned just right or the image will be blurry, it’s a called the “sweet spot” and the cosmos has a notoriously small sweet spot. It’s not that big of a deal, like I said, I play for hours a day just fine, but it takes a little practice to get it set correctly everytime, and if you make quick movements and the headset shifts a little bit, you have to re adjust to get back to it. I have psvr and quest also and this is the only issue where the cosmos isn’t noticeably better than the other 2

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PIotTwist•

VR is just another monitor, the games is what matters in regards to specs. I'm having a 7th gen i5 and a 1060 and am playing games fine on the Cosmos. Preferred the Cosmos since it was the cheapest thing available and also it's upgradable to an elite later on.

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ollieperido•

Hey quick question, How long did it take for you to get your cosmos and where did you get it from?

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PIotTwist•

UK, 3-4 days (should've been 1) from Game.co.uk.

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TomC69•

If I were you I would get the Cosmos Elite. It comes with 1.0 base stations/controllers, both of which would be compatible with a Vive Pro headset, an Index headset, and Index controllers. So you still have a lot of options down the road. If you end up with the Elite and are happy with it (I personally find the Cosmos sweet spot fine when the IPD is correctly adjusted) then you may want to modify your current Index order for just the controllers.

You may also want to consider the Oculus Rift S or Quest w/Link cable.

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ArkooniusOP•

I definitely don't want an oculus. Internet says its not too comfortable in terms of those who need to wear glasses, and the quest is a standalone VR I believe which I want to avoid.

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TomC69•

I wear glasses (140x40mm) with my Oculus Rift and Go, no problem and I find them very comfortable. Oculus says you should be good for up to 142x50mm size. Also, I have high index lens so these a nice an light/thin. If you have large, coke bottle thick glasses you def want to avoid these. Def more room with my Cosmos and Vive Pro headsets though and both of these also feel comfortable to me.

The Oculus Quest is standalone mobile but it now has a Link cable so you can run it through your gaming PC via usb3.0. Probably not quite as good as a dedicated PCVR headset with DP but many seem to think it's pretty good. Also, with Virtual Desktop you can do wireless. Probably not as good as Vive Wireless (which I also have) and probably depends on the game's complexity. I should find out soon since I ordered a Quest plus Link cable earlier this week from the Oculus store, lol!

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