Python is for girls
Posted Mar 13, 2011, 2:41 PM UTC
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If I can read it correctly.
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That girl's head and feet are lifted straight from Ant Parade by Kei Acedera and Bobby Chiu. I wonder if they had any part in it, or if it was just traced from their work. If the latter... not cool.
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Here's a comparison. I scaled her a bit non-uniformly in the Python image, and rotated it a bit, but it's most definitely lifted from Ant Parade.
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I'm not a T-shirt fan, but this one's great. It's nice how he turns the expression around to mean that even young girls can use and benefit from Python.
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Because girls are incapable of understanding programming languages that boys can amirite?
Edit: I wonder if the downvotes are due to sarcasm detection failure or misogony?
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Python is for gils
FTFY :P
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Python is for GILs
FTFY :P
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CPython is for GILs
FTFY :P
FTFY
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*Pushes glasses up by the bridge and fixes collar* Girlth? Really, where?
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I think you thcared them off, joeldavith. *adjusts pocket protector*
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apparently Guido hasn't been keeping tabs on the widespread crackdown on potential sexist material/behavior in conferences
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Apparently he has been keeping up, because I can't see anything possibly sexist about the Benevolent Dictator of a highly prominent, and popular programming language saying that his language is "for girls" as opposed to "for Real Men (tm)".
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Generally, we say "for Real Programmers (tm)"
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your particular interpretation matters little, what matters is those few people who will see it differently, and trust me when i say that there would be some.
i'm sure this is tongue-in-cheek, i'm sure that the fact that he's "putting down" his own language in many ways exempts him from any claim of sexism. but the very notion that "for little girls" is a put down in the first place, or in any way different that "for little boys", is a touchy subject in and of itself.
Mark Pesce's talk on web privacy at linux.conf.au caught a bunch of shit recently, and I'm 90% sure that if you watched it you, like me, would not find it offensive in the least bit. The most controversial image was 2 guys in an outlandish/joke dominatrix scene. Yet it still violated the LCA's anti-harassment guidelines. Just watch the disclaimer they ended up adding to it before putting it online:
http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/file/4851926
I'd be very apprehensive wearing a shirt like that, regardless of how much i loved python or how much i respected woman and their contributions to CS
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To be fair, IIRC the crackdown on minor, only vaguely dubious material is part of an attempt to use broken window theory to try and reduce the actual serious problems that have been found, like groping, harassment, upskirt photos etc. - the idea being that if you have an atmosphere where even minor possible sexism is frowned upon, the incidence of seriously obnoxious behaviour should reduce as well, and will stand out and shock more when it does happen.
Whether it'll work as a strategy, I don't know, IANASociologist. But I don't think this is all just a case of "a few people" taking offence at everything for no good reason.
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agree completely. don't get me wrong, i don't mean to suggest that the precautions are unwarranted, but they are extensive enough that it's still quite easy for someone to accidentally step over the line. this shirt for instance, completely harmless and well-meaning in every way, i'm sure, but it's still the type of thing that might stir up controversy and detract from the topic at hand.
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Exactly. To address a serious issue, even if it is well meaning, with a cheesy, non-humorous t-shirt slogan, is to reduce the topic to a level of triviality that belittles it.
We have a LONG way to go towards improving the situation before such t-shirts can be considered appropriate.
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Linking something called upskirt to an article ... now that's just mean.
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I don't think you should have to be a sociologist to know you have the right to laugh about something.
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The creator of Python saying "Python is for girls" is nothing but flattering for women. You need to be a fucking idiot to think otherwise.
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This point was addressed in my reply
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It is not about flattering or not. It is leveraging a stereotype for a cheap laugh. How would it look if you went to a country music conference with a t-shirt "country music is for black people" or a dance conference with a "dancing is for white people" t-shirt, or a finance conference with "finance is for gentiles" t-shirt?
Some things are just too touchy, or too complex, and should be considered out of reach for a cheap laugh, or any trivial treatment.
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At first, I disagreed with flukshun but I actually think he/she's got a point--because of the IMAGE on the t-shirt.
The cute little cartoony girl undermines the intended message.
I mean, I get the point, and I think it's a cool idea, just maybe not executed as well as it could have.
Guido is still my hero though. =)
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Nice, I was wondering what that funky t-shirt was he was wearing!
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Who is that Guido?
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Yes that's Guido right after his "fireside chat" at Pycon.
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made me think of coding like a girl.
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Guido is for boys
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made me think of coding like a girl.
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As a female Pythonista, I think this is awesome! The only thing that's sexist about it is it only comes in men's sizes. http://www.23monkeys.com/designs/python
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I can't play the jpeg...