I had a revelation about the FF7 OG Ending and what it means for FF7Remake

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Popular theories to be aware of

  1. A common understandings of the ending scene of OG Final Fantasy is that Meteor was stopped, and Aerith wakes up in lifestream.
  2. A lesser known theory is that Meteor was not stopped, humanity was destroyed, and Aerith still wakes up in the lifestream
  3. An even less popular one is that Meteor was not stopped, humanity is destroyed, and Aerith does NOT wake up in the lifestream. Rather, she is in Midgar.

I believe that the third one is correct. Here is why:

FF7 Opening and Ending - Aerith is in Midgar

After revisiting the opening & ending of FF7 I am pretty sure Aerith is in Midgar in both of them. The blue dots around Aerith's face were thought to represent the lifestream that she is now inside, but it looks like it is simply some glowing lights in a random side street in Midgar. See image:

https://preview.redd.it/e4y8nri9vzt41.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1300f1d4cc573db5df26be0395489049f457fca

Compare the screenshots above of FF7 OG with the opening of FF7 Remake: https://giphy.com/gifs/ifRa6PwOT6E6iz0QJL

As you can see, Aerith is not in the lifestream in these images, she's in Midgar.

What does this mean?

It means that potentially, revisiting timelines and altering the events of the future was always the intent of the creators of FF7 even in the original, or at least a possibly they intentionally left open to explore. It further supports the evidence based theory that humanity was destroyed at the end of FF7. Thus, the ending of FF7 OG was not of Aerith waking up in the lifestream, but rather of her waking up in the past or in an alternate timeline where the effects of the Meteor crash are known to the lifestream and are somehow communicated to Sephiroth, and later to Aerith. Somehow, the impact of Meteor into the planet caused this.

I also noticed that the line at the end of FF7 Remake that Sephiroth delivers to cloud supports this as well. He says to cloud, "I will not end, nor will I have you end". Yes, Sephiroth was defeated, but humanity was also destroyed (that's why the ending of FF7 showed only RED XIII and no humans, with nature covering Midgar). There are more hints that this is what happened throughout FF7, including but not limited to the conversation that the party had with Copenhagen where he states that Holy will determine who is and is not a danger to the planet, if the planet is to be saved. It seems that at the end of FF7 OG, the planet decided that keeping humans around was not in the best interest of the planet. And for some reason, although Sephiroth is trying to succeed this time, he also does not want humanity to be destroyed.

And it seems likely that this telling of FF7 has been the intent of the writers since the beginning, for the 1997 release.

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What are your thoughts?

Posted Apr 20, 2020, 4:19 PM UTC · edited

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starcross_skye•

Yeah, this is more or less what I think. Having said that, I think the main story beats will STILL be kept the same - there will be slight variations that add up to perhaps a reduced Holy/Lifestream damage impact. I think that the resolution of this game will in fact be the one that leads to AC and Dirge, and that the OG "vision" resulted in everyone dying. It'll tie things up nicely and mean that THIS FF7 is actually the definitive one.

Also I think Zack is dead, Biggs and Jessie are still dead, all that stuff at the end was a glimpse of an alternate timeline to show us that we have the power to make some changes going forward. Given how close to perfect most of the game was, I think we're in for a similar re-experience in Part 2. It's clearly the development tack they're on, and adding all that stuff at the end doesn't change that their overall process seems to be one where they take the main story beats and expand. Given that they've moved straight into the production of Part 2, they're likely still on that same tip, as some of the pre-production work would have been done during Part 1's development.

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I don't think it was the intent from day one, as that would lead to a much brighter timeline where Advent Children never turned Cloud Emo, or Aerith into 'pure angel!'

I think it was originally designed to be left up to interpretation, leaving those three options you listed as all topics to be discussed. A way to make sure their game stuck in the players head for longer.

I do, however, think the have decided option three leads to a lot of very good story potential, and have decided to use it for that purpose.

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Samwise00OP•

This makes sense to me too

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Siguchi•

Never ever been aware of your so called common understanding about Aerith waking up in the lifestream... Any evidence?

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Then you must've never spoken to anyone about the ending.

What the hell the final shot means was hotly debated for years, and was a key factor to a lot of hatred of Advent Children.

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Samwise00OP•

Yeah man, I don't have any hard evidence for you on that one except that I've seen it repeated by countless people personally. Feel free to take a poll though if you want to gather that data!

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starcross_skye•

I can confirm I read that theory multiple times online well over a decade ago. I remember because I was home from school, in bed sick with my laptop and had nothing better to do than look up ending theories.

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Siguchi•

Nah! I'm planning another kind of poll! ;-)

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Dungdfndr•

I'll be honest, I've played and beaten FF7 over half-a-dozen times and I don't think I've ever considered the 3rd option. But now that I've seen it, I can't unsee it. I really like that read of the end, gonna have to go back and replay the OG version!

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