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FinsofFury

Would you start Tua or Rosen?

Hypothetical: let’s say Fitzy gets injured midway through the season. And he’s out for the remainder. Would you then start Tua or Rosen? Tua would certainly boost ticket sales and get fans jacked up.

Me? Playoff is doubtful so I would start Rosen. We really need to see his progress and see if he’s a legit #2 behind Tua. If he does well, he could be trade bait. Besides, the OL need time to get in sync, so I’d rather throw Rosen to the wolves. Sorry Rosen, nothing personal. I like you.

Posted Apr 30, 2020, 2:46 AM UTC

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VolharTua of a kind•

I mean if Tua is cleared, him,if he has any questions at all, put rosen out behind our oline lol

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enviousofall•

No we need to get Rosen's stock up for a trade next season. I'd give him a lot more snaps this season.

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Vikn_Hammy•

I see where you’re coming from.. But look at this from Flores perspective. Do you risk losing games to hopefully trade a guy for like a 4th instead of a 6th? I just don’t think that really makes sense if you actually think about it.

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Lusjuh•

you're underrating Rosen by a lot.

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Cidolfus•

Based on what, exactly? Rosen is young, cheap, and... actually, there's where the list of verifiable positives ends. He's been dealt a bad hand--there's no disputing that--but he's put absolutely nothing to film in the NFL that should give anyone real reason to believe that he's got a future as anything other than a back-up.

Jameis Winston just signed a one-year deal for $1.1 million--half of what Rosen will cost the Dolphins next year. Winston is not a good quarterback, and he's signing for barely more than his league minimum contract value. That should give you an idea of Rosen's perceived value across the league.

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Szudar•

Jameis Winston just signed a one-year deal for $1.1 million

This contract is outlier

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JustTheBeerLight•

Rosen is young and cheap

He also had a really good arm. I hope we continue to develop him.

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warpticon•

Unless something has drastically changed about the way he plays while having no in-game reps, probably not. He's been in bad situations but he also has not performed well, and his primary issues have not shown any signs of being solved in the games he has played.

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enviousofall•

They're not going to win many games this year. They're still in the rebuilding phase and I think with the upgrades on the O-line this off season Rosen could play well. He's still only 23 and has a lot of talent to be a starting QB. Who's to say that if he played well we couldn't get at least a second. Look at what the Pats got for Jimmy G and he barely played.

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MooDexter•

I was using this same logic to increase Tua's shelf life and get a us a better deal on Rosen later on. It lets us be a bit more conservative and has a much stronger possibility of giving us dual upsides between the both of them.

Let's just say a lot of Phin fans I know we're not pleased with that suggestion.

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SerEichhorn•

Whoever wins the spot

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Swordswoman•

People are forgetting Rosen's had a whole season to learn the playbook. Tua might see snaps, but Rosen's the clear starter in the event of a Fitzpatrick injury until one of the following things happen: Tua shows extreme competence and learns the playbook quickly, or the O-Line shows extreme competence and we feel safe starting Tua to learn.

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JustTheBeerLight•

Its a new system dude. New OC, new playbook.

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Memester127•

Exactly. And Chan Gailey ran plays similar to that of Alabama where Tua played. I’m not sure about Rosen in college.

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dick2hard•

Chan Gailey runs spread offences. Fitz did pretty well back on the Jets(FTJ) when Gailey was OC. Rosen also played an up-tempo spread offence in college so I think Gailey is a good fit for all of our QBs

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emuzingFINS•

I think Rosen’s best years in college were in a spread system.

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FuzzyAlgae•

If the offensive line sucks Rosen. Feed him to the wolves not Tua.

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EnochofPottsfield•

The real answer here. Bad o-line = no Tua in 2020 no matter what

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liverbool8•

Depends how Fitzpatrick got hurt. Was he taking a lot of shots from being behind an inexperienced OL, with the final hit getting him hurt? I’d start Rosen.

If it was more of a fluke injury and the OL looked good/ solid cohesion with the skill players, I wouldn’t have a problem putting Tua back there.

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SharkWeekOverrated•

A 1st... lol

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Winterclaw42•

As much as I hate to say it, start Tua if he's healthy and is comfortable enough with the system to play. I'd prefer he stay on the bench this season except as a relief guy, but in this case I'm not sure I see the point in starting rosen.

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spacetiger110•

Protecting Tua. I would think the real question would be how well the offensive line has been performing as a unit when Fitz goes down. Remember how long it took the line to gel last year.

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MisterSoco•

Get Rosen in and "Suck for Sewell." It's all gotta come down to the confidence in Tua's fitness, I wouldn't rush him in for the sake of it even though a high percentage of fans will be clamouring to see him out there.

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Memester127•

We wouldn’t need Sewell if Hunt and Jackson are going off at tackle

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MisterSoco•

It's just a bad attempt at starting this seasons "Tank for Tua". Once trained up Jackson is going to an absolute beast at LT I can feel it my bones and Hunt, well he's just a giant of a man, I have full faith we are set at LT and RT for years to come.

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Desertlobo•

Rosen

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RealPropRandy•

Chosen Rosen.

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lswins•

Depends on Tua’s health. If Tua needs more time to heal then Rosen.

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hamandjam74•

If it's the middle of the season, the trade deadline is gone and Rosen doesn't work as trade bait. Only way that happens is if Rosen balls out in pre-season.

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Breezy0827•

I had this question in my head for awhile now and it really depends what if they sit Tua out for the year or not because if not and he is healthy Tua will get the nod then keep rosen on the bench as a backup backup.

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treksf6•

I don't think playoffs are doubtful at all. By the mid point of the season I might think so, but there is no reason to think that now. I say you do whatever you need to win. If Tua is cleared as 100%, and he gives you the best chance to win, you play him.

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Nuclearsunburn•

Depends on the record. Actually no it doesn’t. I want Tua either way. If the record is bad, like first-overall pick next year bad, we NEED to see what we have. If it’s Arizona-Rosen-level disaster, we can angle for Lawrence next year. If the record is good, Tua should give us the better chance to make a playoff run anyway. Playoff experience as a rookie would be incredibly good.

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centipedeboy•

ROSEN

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The only reason Rosen should play this season is if he plays lights out in the preseason and earns the starting job, otherwise the Dolphins are in a favorable position with a young, inexpensive backup QB with a high ceiling.

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Yournewhero•

Depends on how the offensive line gels together and performs. Unless this is top ten line, we should not be starting Tua behind it in year one.

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lookallama•

Probably Rosen. Between his injury recovery and the likely scenario of no offseason program (or shortened one), I prefer giving Tua and the o-line the whole season to get their bearings.

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