DPR Usul Pemerintah dan BI Cetak Uang Rp 600 T
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finance.detik.comPosted Apr 30, 2020, 3:35 AM UTC
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finance.detik.comYou wanna get inflation? cause that's how you get inflation.
Dikiranya uang cuma main cetak aja seenaknya.
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mungkin anggota DPR kita banyak yg punya tabungan pribadi dollar.
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Knowing some members, this is a likely scenario
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Pikiran pertama gw itu mereka otaknya gak sampai disana.
Shows my faith in our DPR.
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yang ngasih usul itu orang PDIP bro wkkwkw
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asumsinya begitu, mau dicoret sama emak banteng?
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Jokowi is not the person they put on pedestal though.
Juga, bukannya Said Abdullah itu orang senior PDIP? Kayaknya bisa aja dia pikir dia bisa kasih perintah ke Jokowi seenak jidat.
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Hope it is the former. Cause if it the latter....
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doh obviously the second. otaknya nggak nyampe
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Mereka pasti nggak tau hyperinflation di hungaria
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gw ada baca di ignya ngertisaham katanya makin banyak uang beredar(inflasi) maka mendorong daya beli dan meningkatkan pertumbuhan ekonomi
explain like im 8?
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Banyak uang yg beredar membuat semua orang semakin "kaya"
Semakin orang "kaya" maka semakin tinggi keinginan mereka membeli barang
Jika produksi barang bisa mengikuti kebutuhan pasar maka ekonomi akan kembali bergerak
Itu dengan asumsi masyarakat bisa beli barang dan pabrik bisa mencukupi loh ya. Bagaimana dg kondisi sekarang dimana banyak pabrik tutup sehingga stok barang semakin tipis? Harga semakin naik sama seperti kasus masker sama vienetta kemarin sementara orang yg punya banyak duit-pun gak bisa beli
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ohh berarti asumsi pertumbuhan ekonomi saat inflasi disini dengan alasan kalau produsen mampu mencukupi kebutuhan konsumen yaaa
kalau seandainya produsen ga sanggup mencukupi gmn dong? apa harga barang bakalan naik lebih tinggi dripada peredaran uang yaa? dan dampak berat inflasinya brrti disini ya?
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He eh. Sesuai hukum pasar kan kalo permintaan tinggi tapi produksi rendah maka harga barang bakal naik. Kalo bisa terkontrol gk masalah sih tapi kalo udah hiperinflasi, dimana orang gk bisa beli barang antara barangnya gk ada atau harga setinggi langit, itu baru masalah. Makanya kalo cek berita hiperinflasi di Jerman dulu atau Venezuela gitu, orang pada bakar duitnya lah atau bikin tas dari duit karena gk kepake duitnya, gk ada harganya lagi krn mahalnya harga barang
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Inflasi itu cuma salah 1 variable pertumbuhan aja, dan harus pada kadar yg cukup.
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Asumsinya sederhananya:
Inflasi kecil, terkendali, dan stabil sembari kenaikan penghasilan bisa mendorong daya beli masyarakat karena nilai uang semakin mengecil, maka masyarakat akan menggunakan uang untuk membeli barang/jasa sesegera mungkin. Daya beli masyarakat tinggi, ekonomi meningkat.
Bandingkan kalo deflasi, nilai uang bukannya mengecil tapi bertambah, orang akan menahan uang mereka karena berpikir "oh, tahun depan kalo gw tahan gw jadinya bisa beli ini itu krna harga turun." Jadinya uang cuma terdiam aja, gak kembali ke rantai ekonomi, daya beli masyarakat menurun, ekonomi gak meningkat karena stagnasi.
Kalo cuma main cetak uang tanpa alasan yang jelas, tanpa research yang jelas, liatin tu Zimbabwe jadi gimana,
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Economy will be carried by Coffin Dancer.
DUN dun DUN dun dun dun DUN DUN DUN dun dun dun
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Amerika gitu sih. Tpi ya itu, itu negara emg spesial banget kasusnya
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Pas harga minyak jatuh apakah mrk msh berani cetak uang
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Hahaha money printer go brr brr brr
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Haha inflasi go boom boom
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Sri Mulyani: Asuuuu baru kepikiran guah!!
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BBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Them: haha money printer go brrr
Us: wkwk msin cetak uang kerja brrr brrr brrr
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Inflasi : STONK!!!!
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Why the dumb one always speaks so loud, while the smart one sit in silent.
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Because the smart one usually feels dumb while the dumb one usually feels smart.
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The Dunning Kruger
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Dunning-Kruger effect
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The smart one gak dikasih panggung!!! Dr Rizal Ramli memuji fundamental ekonomi Vietnam, mengkritik utang dan kebijakan austerity indo, menyarankan alokasi dana ibukota ke corona, bailout rakyat bukan bank, dll. Gak didenger pemerintah!
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ada smart, ada r/iamverysmart.
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Rizal ramli yang mentri pecatan jokowi? LOL
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Phd boston btw. Mungkin beliau dipecat krn mengoposisi kebijakan pemerintah? Imf loan yg mensensarakan rakyat di ekuador lebanon, austerity di inggris skotlandia, blaming sana sini ekonomi gak naik, bailout century dan 'jiwasraya?' 🤔
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kenapa gak usul ke perum peruri aja ? yg nyetak mereka toh ? /s
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*tepok jidat*
badan anggaran tapi usul-nya ajaib seperti ini
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DPR
Badan Anggaran DPR
Ketua Badan Anggaran MH Said Abdullah
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bener bener Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat. Rakyat Indonesia kan goblok-goblok.
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The reason why printing money somewhat makes sense right now is because the difficulties the government will have in getting a loan to help the economy during the crisis and recovery after crisis. As most countries will most likely look to do the same and the supply of loans will be depleted.
These printed money will be used by BI to reduce interest rates and buy garbage bonds from banks in order to increase their prices. This is to prevent a Liquidity trap.
Will there be inflation? Of course. d M.V/Q = d P after all. But the deflation this crisis will cause is far worse than any inflationary issues the country make sense.
This is called Quantitative Easing.
Are there better policies that could be implemented? Perhaps
Is the policy stupid and baseless? No, it has clear economic backing in it
Will we end up like Zimbabwe? Hard to know, but since most economist project deflation is incoming, the policy will most likely attempt to counteract that trend. It might however not be enough.
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garbage bonds
the term is junk bonds
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Among any other comments, your argument tend to support the idea. Can you please ELI5 since I am not economics person??
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I'm still in my first year of my Bsc so I'm not really good at giving simplified explanations, but I'll try my best. I might make some theoretical mistakes, so more experienced economists feel free to interject.
Basically this pandemic has caused an overall decrease in both demand and supply.
But most economist forecast a sharper decrease in demand, due to various factors that are hard to explain without going further into economic theory.
This will cause speculations of deflation, which in turn causes liquidity preference (preference to hold cash) to prevail. Which may lead to a liquidity trap, where most people rather hold cash rather than financial assets (such as investments). Lower investments will lead to lower output and wages in the economy.
To stop this from happening, the central bank can apply Quantitative Easing which is done by printing money and buying junk bonds and decreasing interest rates.
What most people here are worried is the possibility of hyper inflation due to this policy. This is based on the quantity theory of money, M (money supply) x V (velocity, rate money is being spent) = P (price) x Q (output) hence M.V/Q = P and d M.V/Q = d P. Which basically means that an increase in the supply of money leads to an increase in prices. Which is what the government is aiming for.
However judging from most of the comments, most of the fear stemmed from stigma printing money had from the policies of Zimbabwe. Which is slightly misguided, Zimbabwe issue is far different. As the issue was excessive money creation to fund foreign wars due to them unable to apply for loans after the eviction of their white farmers.
Basically, the eviction of skilled workers resulted in a decrease in output followed by an increase in money supply to fund international activities is the perfect recipe for hyperinflation.
QE on the other hand is done to counteract falling prices and investments.
That being said, I'm not really supportive of the policy, as it disproportionately helps the rich rather than those who really need it right now.
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I too feel QE will only benefit those people with financial assets. The idea is those people with financial assets exchange their financial assets with cash, and use cash to get economy machine rotates again.
However this is not the same crisis as last financial crisis. With the last financial crisis, as long as companies get its cash flow running with whatever method, they can avoid bankruptcy.
Inflation can happen if rate of goods produced is lower than rate of money supplied, aka quantity level of goods is lower than quantity level of money.
With last financial crisis, some business can still operate because their workers are healthy, they can produce. However this crisis is different. Humans are at great risk here. If we push production to similar rate without covid, workers may die, therefore labor shortage, therefore less output.
I fear prices are up not because government pumps money into the system, but because we produce at a slower rate, meaning scarcity.
Government needs to make sure maslow's first hierarcy of needs is fulfilled. It's more important than ever to secure food chain. With lower quantity of groceries, money will be spent on just buying expensive groceries. Pumping money into the system is a short term solution. If food output is lower, its prices will only increase to god-knows-where.
This is a very fragile time. The machine who creates goods are operated by human and human are at risk because of virus. No human, no production, no goods. Companies can't be expected to pay salaries even at minimum wage without producing something. Those companies will need some agents to back those funding and now most people are holding their cash tight because of fear.
I think government did a right thing to selectively close down some activities. I think government can do a lot better if they can keep sending paycheck directly to unemployed at minimum to be able to buy groceries and ensuring food chain output uninterrupted by this covid. If we have flatten the curve, output will rise again albeit slow or very slowly because we have yet to invent the antidode.
Regarding lock down especially in Jakarta, I fear if after 22nd May, Covid figures rise and government must do another PSBB.
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Soekarno part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Sanering jilid 2. Punya tabungan 100 juta jadi tinggal 10rb.
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Kanjeng Dimas, waktu dan tempat dipersilakan.
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Dimas Kanjeng
FTFY
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Lha pasar bergerak ke online malah suruh cetak uang maksudnya gimana mohon pencerahannya
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cuma usul. untungnya menkeu kita pinter
The realiable one
SHe really is the ol realiable
Editt
SHE!
Right sorry
The only Sri Mulyani I respected
How about the other one?
Hemmm, which one ?
Bupati Klaten
Rupiah printer go brrrrr.