I (20F) misinformed my girlfriend (20F) about how to lose weight and I want to make it up to her

Hi,
I think I really messed up big time right now. So I've always been active and I don't eat much besides the normal 3 meals a day so I've always been skinny and fit. My girlfriend doesn't really have an active lifestyle, and her body makes her really unhappy sometimes. I'm always supportive of her wanting to change but I love her body and I don't judge her for being a little chubby. She just really hates being chubby and has some self esteem issues when it comes to weight. So in retrospect maybe I should have been much more serious when she decided she wanted to lose weight.

Recently she decided she really wanted to drop some pounds and get into better shape and I was super supportive of her. However, I didn't really research how to lose weight and all of that stuff. So she's been doing exercises and stuff for a while but she started snacking recently and gained some weight she had lost. She had lost her appetite for a while because of some mental turmoil her family put her through, so she dropped snacking and only really ate her meals. She then started snacking again once that cleared up and ended up gaining weight even though she worked out.

She told me she regained weight and it seemed like her mentality got way worse so I looked up some sources to help her lose weight, because if she gained weight, working out wasn't helping. I sent her the links and she messaged me saying she felt like I had lied to her. I do think I'm guilty of this because when she said I had told her to just eat better and workout, I also said losing weight was easy. I feel really bad, and I was proud of her for losing weight, but right now it seems like she's really mad at me. I was planning on sending her a care package but now she doesn't want it and that just makes me worried. Could anyone share their perspective on what I wrote and give me some advice? I can provide any other details needed in the replies if necessary.

Posted Apr 30, 2020, 7:16 AM UTC

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handsofanangrygod•

I think she’s feeling really defeated because she made a lifestyle change (working out) and she’s getting an undesirable outcome (gaining weight).

she can still snack, but low-calorie foods like apples or whatever, and lose weight.

I would just send her a heartfelt apology (even while this is not your fault and you shouldn’t own any blame), only because she is in a really low place right now. you could just explain you were trying to help and reassure her you love the way she looks and support anything she aims to do.

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Moon_FilthOP•

Yeah.. I just felt really guilty because I definitely remember several times when I had snacked with her or told her dieting didn't seem important in my opinion. So her saying she felt like I had lied to her made sense to me just because I know how much she trusts me, and I definitely shouldn't have just pulled exercise and weight loss stuff out of my ass. This stuff is definitely a lot more finicky now that I've read up on it... thanks for reading and commenting though

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Snacking is probably not important for you because you are slim and fit. If you are chubby, snacking is the first thing you need to change. Maybe try snacking banana with a little peanut butter or sweet fruits like strawberrys. Also a healthy breakfast and routine helps a lot to ease into getting more healthy. (Coming from a chubby girl)

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helloiseeyou2020•

A banana and peanut butter could be pretty calorie dense. Isnt PB like 100 kcals per tablespoon?

Delicious, healthy and filling though. Good for you if youre counting the calories. But man, when I was losing weight, I could barely have peanut butter in the house much less snack on it daily

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Yeah but I do it to easy into not eating chocolate or something sweet. And I dont use a lot of peanutbutter. Also we have peanut butter that is made of 100% peanuts, little detail haha

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villanelIa•

What do you mean snacking is not as important to him? 300kcals of snacks is the same in his body as in his girlfriend's body. If he is skinny its actually easier to get in the caloric surplus needed to gain weight.

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Moon_FilthOP•

another one of her issues is that I was doing more workouts without her and that's why when we lived the same lifestyle i didnt really gain weight. I guess in that sense I really did lie to her. Although I did tell her I did more stuff and it'd be smart to work up to a point where she could handle the stuff i did. I do think the solution to this is apologizing, referring her to some calorie counting app and articles and just supporting her from the side instead of acting as some bootleg coach. Advice from me might sting instead of help honestly because it might come off as me wanting her to change. Sorry i rambled thanks for replying

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Neonatas•

Working out doesnt really make you lose weight, it changes how you look.

Eating less then your bodies needs, whats called a callorie deficient makes you lose weight.

Combine both and mix in disipline, and you'll get great results.

Also, dont over do both either, it takes alot of time to get fat, so expect it to take alot of time to lose it.

And working out is a skill, which need to be learned and mastered, find a professional to get her the right help.

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evanaven•

This is a tough one to make up for.

Personally, I would prefer it if the person owned up, explained that they’ve learned from their mistake, and explained what they’ll do differently.

Dietician, weight training, and nutritionists have their fields because all of it is way more complicated then, “This works for me. You try it.” People have different body compositions an different needs.

Some people don’t need to diet and only need to work out and lose weight or gain muscle.

Others can eat well, barely work out, and gain muscle.

Honestly, I could keep going on like that.

Just be honest with her: you won’t give her advice on dieting or working out because you’ve since learned you don’t know how to help her.

I hope she forgives you because this was an honest mistake and you obviously feel terribly about this.

Best luck to her with her with weight loss.

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Moon_FilthOP•

This comment does make the most sense to me. I think from now on I'll probably forego giving advice to her because it could come off as me wanting her to change. Especially if there's points she wanted to stop and i encouraged her that could have hurt instead of helped. I wrote her an apology and referred her to a calorie counter IF she wanted to continue. I definitely think i messed up more than some people in this thread think. Thanks for commenting

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evanaven•

Most people don’t understand the severity you can fuck someone over giving them work out/dieting advice that doesn’t work for them.

Don’t feel too bad though. Your heart was in the right place and you owned up to it. Just try better next time.

There was this fucking moron who gave my roommate the most stupid advice: eat 400 calories a day and work out. Ignored her health problems and the fact she was underweight.

He was a weight trainer at a gym. In my eyes, you did okay.

Extra note: when giving someone advice, avoid the word easy. What’s easy for you may not be for them.

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Moon_FilthOP•

Yeah, plus adding that dynamic to a relationship doesn't really seem healthy as well. Like she was coming to me for workouts and eating advice and I really didn't want her to think she should stop eating because I definitely think the wrong advice could make her spiral into an eating disorder. This is just from what I know about her so I could be wrong of course but it was a little weird in the first place in retrospect

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evanaven•

I wouldn’t say it’s weird. People go to those they care about for advice all the time.

Isn’t it funny? We constantly have a device with every answer we need in our phone, and we still rely on the person next to us for an answer they likely don’t have.

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Lolognese•

Hi, I don't think this is a huge fuck up on your part, yes you gave her some poor advice but at the end of the day she is the one who wants to lose weight so she should have done her research better. Also I don't think she truly blames you or think you lied, it'll likely more be that she feels shit because of other things you mentioned plus the horrible mental turmoil that hating your body can put someone in, so she's lashing out at the nearest person. Moving forward, keep telling her you love her body the way it is and always have done, and if she seriously wants to lose weight she needs to first calculate how many calories she should be eating in a day with a sedentary lifestyle (there are tons of good scientific ones online) stick to that, and then add exercise on top but she should track her inch measurements as well as her weight because especially in women our weight can shoot up and down all the time based on water retention etc so it isn't always the best indicator of how her plan is going.

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Moon_FilthOP•

What other things would have set her off in general, if you have time? Especially weight related comments. I really would like to avoid upsetting her accidentally. Thanks for commenting and reading though I really do appreciate it

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Lolognese•

Hi, where I said 'other things you mentioned' I meant the stuff you put in your post about her family, also no doubt Corona will probably be having an effect as well, I didn't mean it sounds like you've been saying dumb stuff. It's nice that you're so concerned about upsetting her!

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Moon_FilthOP•

Oh sorry I misread the things I mentions as things I mentioned to her and not in the post. Sorry for the miscommunication and thanks for replying again

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helloiseeyou2020•

You didnt lie, you just gave some bad advice. It happens. People give bad advice all the time. Make it up to her by giving her GREAT advice now.

Work out + eat better is the way to do it but it's not nearly specific enough and doesnt place emphasis on the right thing. That's all you need to know because you've always had a good relationship with food - she however does not, so the advice is kind of like telling someone who's bad with money to "control your spending and invest" to get out of debt

What a stunning number of people dont know is that working out has ALMOST NO effect on your weight. Your health, absolutely, and it's an effective tool to quicken weight loss. But the #1 thing that drives weight loss is "eat fewer calories than you burn". Spme people have lost over a hundred pounds without ever exercising by doing just that.

Look up the app My Fitness Pal and learn how to use it. Then teach her how to use it. You enter everything you eat - no exceptions - and it counts the stories for you. It calculates how much to eat for healthy weight loss so you think of it as a daily budget of calories. Stay under that budget line, weight loss is guaranteed.

Just remember she has to log everything. I.E. if she makes a sandwich, log the condiments too. If she makes stir fry, include any oils or butter used. People lose a lot of calories here and end up thinking they "cant" lose weight. So I would recommend she go to zero calorie drinks, meaning make water her #1 go to drink. Drinking calories is bad because it adds to your count but it will not make you feel full at all.

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Moon_FilthOP•

The app will definitely be a lot more helpful for her than me just sending her another workout routine. And I was definitely one of those people who didn't know workouts have that little effect on your weight. I'll definitely try to be more mindful about what advice does and doesn't work based on person to person. I appreciate the reply.

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helloiseeyou2020•

No problem! If I had the patience to go back to school I would probably dedicate my life to bettering public perception (and prioritization!) of weight related health issues, so I am sincerely happy to help anyone who has trouble getting after these very important goals.

Yeah working out makes a difference because it can account for a couple extra hundred calories burned per day, but generally speaking for average people, weight is lost in the kitchen. Unless you work out like Eddie Hall or Michael Phelps haha

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EgoisticAltruist•

maybe its the way you presented her sports and how to lose weight, she probably got the wrong idea and thought that some activity would fix her right up. most unfit people overestimate exercise effectiveness. tell her that losing weight is a simple as calories in vs calories out and that -300 calories during a workout doesnt compensate for eating 400 calories in snacks. when it comes to weight its all about nutrition and after accepting that, its really easy to lose and gain weight. tell her to get an app like EasyFit or sth similar and track EVERYTHING she eats. with a little self control she can probably lose over a pound per week no problem.

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Moon_FilthOP•

it was definitely the way i presented physical activity to her. afterall I thought physical activity was the thing that'd help her lose weight but I was deaaaaad wrong

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DikPhace•

Dieting is everything. how could you? this is disastrous! You monster!!! ....Jk its alright to snack buddy but just replace her regular snacking with low calorie snack like celery or salads. I’ve started doing this with my wife and it’s doing wonder also replacing sodas with ginger and citrus infused water was a big component of our weigh loss journey.i wish you the best of luck to you and your girlfriend buddy

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Moon_FilthOP•

I hope you and your wifes weight loss go well. I'll be sure to inform her that she can replace her snacks and stuff AFTER I fact check this time. Thank you for replying

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Gathy9•

First thing. Don't look at weight in the beginning, your body lose water and fat and replacing it with muscles, so it's normal that weight can be little stagnant in the beginning.

Secondly. Drink lot of water (2-3 liters is fine), and snacking is healthy (5/6 foods per day is optimal), but watch how much you are eating.

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helloiseeyou2020•

Don't look at weight in the beginning, your body lose water and fat and replacing it with muscles

Oof. The rest of your post is good but you need to know that this is a myth, and one of the most common (and anti-weight loss) myths of all

The human body does not remove fat and then "replace it with muscles". The truth is that it is very very difficult to put on muscle mass, and INCREDIBLY easy to put on fat mass. The average woman, if she is working out hard (full body program, no skipping leg day etc) will put on half a pound to 1 pound of muscle per mo th from the sources I can find

She might still be getting noob gains. But it's just as likely (much likelier, really) that she is gaining weight because she hasnt lowered her daily calorie intake and in fact may be increasing it via snacking

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martinaba1995•

Maybe you should look into the book „how not to diet“ to avoid misinformation in the future

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Do or do not. There is no try

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burgerchucker•

You didn't misinform her.

The ONLY way to lose weight and get fitter is to eat better food, in smaller amounts, feel a bit hungry sometimes and NOT snack, and to exercise a lot.

She "cheated" by snacking, got defeated and didn't work out enough and is now blaming you to avoid self responsibility.

She needs some therapy and a fitness coach, you need to consider she will break up with you as you are a reminder of her failures.

Good luck.

Personally I would move along and get a better partner, this one sounds like she will do no self improvement, but moan constantly about her health and size.

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Moon_FilthOP•

I don't necessarily think breaking up with her and just finding someone new seems like an appropriate reaction to this. Thanks for commenting though.

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villanelIa•

OP i cant get over the amount of misinformation in the comments so i decided to comment myself to attempt to help you out. To lose weight you simply have to be in a caloric deficit which can be done at start either by eating less OR working out. You dont need to do both you can just eat less or work out and eat as much as before making sure you dont eat more than before. When you first start losing weight the first thing that goes is the water weight which might encourage you but its not the progress you are looking for. It might seem like you lost 5 lbs in 2 weeks or similar weight but its mostly the water. After that losing weight slows down drastically maybe down to 1lb per week and this is where the fat goes. Dont get me wrong first weeks you lose fat too but also the water that makes a difference on the weight scale and afterwards you get discouraged because you think you are doing something wrong now and then you give up when actually you were doing fine. If you are losing 1lb or .5 lb per week thats fantastic keep doing it, if it was easy everyone would do it. Dont feel guilty for snacking with her and also dont feel special as if you are some genetic freak and she got the short end of the stick. If you snack with her and eat the exact same amount of food as her in total daily then she cant gain more weight than you. If she does she ate more. Now if there is a height difference it should be understandable that you wont look as skinny at the same weight. There is no such thing as chubby people getting fat easier than skinny people or having superior metabolism. While there are differences in metabolism they arent that significant. Simplest way to lose weight is to eat less calories. Eating good wont affect her ability to lose weight. If its 1500 kcals of salad daily or 1500 kcals of pizza and mcdonalds daily you will still lose weight. Dont get under the impression that eating that one burger or that one chocolate is the difference because its junk; its the difference because its caloric surplus. However you should still go for homecooked foods that are also high in protein so you lose less muscle.

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Moon_FilthOP•

thanks but I might refer her to more trustworthy sources rather than give her advice because my advice definitely became an issue. Thanks for replying tho

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istara•

The only way to lose weight is to eat less.

But unfortunately the BS to “exercise and eat a healthy diet” is constantly parroted. You won’t lose weight on a healthy diet, you need a deficit or to do some kind of intermittent fasting regime (which usually ends up with a deficit) or to do very strict Keto.

Exercise is great for overall health, no doubt, but it’s shit for weight loss. Particularly women in my experience. We simply don’t add muscle so easily and the fat is much more stubborn.

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Kushthulu_the_Dank•

You seem very sorry and want to make amends so lean into that. You wanted to help, got a little overzealous, and passed on some misinformation. That's a pretty normal human mistake. Express to her how genuinely horrified you were when you discovered that you had misinformed her.

As for moving forward, focus on how you can make adjustments to your shared lives to help her. Maybe you can take over meals for a while and treat her to tasty balanced meals. Women generally love a man who can cook and who cares enough to feed her. But above all, resist any temptation to be an enforcer. You are her boyfriend, not her personal trainer, and trying to be that will only breed resentment. Support her and triple check your info in the future, things should work out on the emotional side.

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