Why don't anti-sjws and other right wing culture warriors make their own video games instead of demanding that developers pander to them?

The video game industry is overwhelmingly progressive and left-leaning. Clearly, a lot of people here aren't happy with that. So why not make your own video games?

Developers like Naughty Dog, CDPR, Rockstar, etc. have decided to embrace having gay, female, and non-white characters in their games. If you hate that stuff, the best option would be to make games that cater to the anti-sjw crowd. Since you guys obviously know a lot more about how to make a video game than sjw neil cuckmann (and you're not just a vocal minority obviously), I'm sure your games will be very successful.

Best of luck!

Posted May 4, 2020, 4:22 PM UTC

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Mark_Collins_Age_45Cordyceps 2020•

So you’re admitting the last of us 2 is pandering to left wing political ideology and social justice over effective story telling?

Wow these people are generally never this transparent.

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

So you’re admitting the last of us 2 is pandering to left wing political ideology and social justice over effective story telling?

How would I know. I haven't played the game and neither have you.

What 'left wing political ideology' are they promoting? Does Ellie give a speech about about how religion is the opiate of the masses at some point in the game? Before he dies, does Joel talk about how Joe Biden is a rapist and you should vote for Bernie Sanders?

But even if they did - who cares? It's their game. They're free to make whatever they want.

Instead of trying to censor them and demand they bend to the knee to your conservative views, make your own video games.

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CharlieWhistle•

Your post history is amazing. Thank you.

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IE_5•

Tell us where evil Orange Man Drumpf touched you on this doll, bby

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

Orange Man Drumpf

Talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome! No one mentioned him, and yet you sjws insist on bringing him up. Sad!

Just because Donald Trump is subservient to Israel and Saudi Arabia, doesn't mean he has anything to do with this game. Neil Druckmann was born in Israel, but I'm unaware of the country itself having any role in the development of this game.

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Koolin123•

When Trump flies to Saudi Arabia during his yearly golf trips, do you think he fucks goats to blend in with the locals, or does he prefer the usual Epstein island special of 12 year old bussy?

P.S. The game is still going to sell millions no matter how many paragraphs desperately trying to convince yourself otherwise you write. ;)

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IE_5•

Another TDS sufferer reveals itself

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

"If you don't support rich pedophiles who love head-chopping dictators', you're deranged!"

lmao, the absolute state of the American Right.

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CharlieWhistle•

You think Saudis fuck goats?

Well I guess you can't be wrong all the time.

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

wtf, how dare you disrespect our president's closest allies?!!!!

Don't you know you're only supposed to be racist against the EVIL ay-rabs who support free speech and democracy, not the good ones who buy weapons from us and bail out our president's many failed businesses?!

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Emanu3000•

Golf

Ironic

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

tfw the evil sjw game still gets critical acclaim and sells millions of copies

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Mark_Collins_Age_45Cordyceps 2020•

Critical acclaim means what exactly? Oh wait are you one of those people that actually take ign and kotaku reviews seriously?

Dude 2007 is gone, no one believes “critical acclaim” means jack shit in gaming.

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

no one believes “critical acclaim” means jack shit in gaming.

Hate to burst your bubble, virgin, but they do matter a lot to mainstream audiences. Your average gamer isn't on Reddit screeching about Anita Sarkeesian and muh ess jay dubbayews. They get their news from mainstream outlets.

That's the reason companies tie bonuses to metacritic averages.

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Mark_Collins_Age_45Cordyceps 2020•

Oh yeah those mainstream metacritic scores really did wonders for battlefield 5.

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CharlieWhistle•

That's because they get banned by pussy mods.

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Emanu3000•

Joel and Ellie die

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

Cool.

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MrForndog•

I didn't know GTA, Red Dead, The Witcher, God Of War, Final Fantasy, Death Stranding, Control (and I pass loads of them) were "left-wing" games. Your argument is stupid...
Having a Black dude as the main character or a female makes them automatically a left-wing game? Since when was that ever the issue with a lot of people here

Did you just decide to go on your leftish high horse without doing any research or simply reading anything? Did you actually read the comments? A lot of people are upset with the outcome of the story so that makes them bigots cause they don't like a story with a Trans in it?

You are just another typical SJW that doesn't do any research... you are just trying to make dumb "arguments" because bigots are outraged at a video game that has a trans in it, while the truth is most of the community here is outrage at the storytelling. So please you little SJW "why don't you make your own games" douch come back and argue when you have facts and you've actually researched things

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[deleted]•

Why someone who doesn't like stupid decision MUST BE a right wing, an anti-sjw, a Trump Supporter, Homophobic, Nazi, Fascist, holocaust denier or whatever?

Maybe people need to calm down and learn to accept criticism. If something with or without a "progressive way of thinking" was poor executed, maybe it is and the judgment doesn't have anything to do with political, religious or gender view.

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

Trump Supporter, Homophobic, Nazi, Fascist, holocaust denier or whatever?

I don't recall calling anyone any of those things. It appears that you're trying to associate being a conservative with all of those things.

Shame on you.

"progressive way of thinking" was poor executed

I've watched the leaks and I'm still not sure what that's referring to. Are you upset that daddy Joel was killed by an ugly wahmen?

Had he been killed by a man, would that have made it non progressive?

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pyrolover6666•

No it wouldn't be different if Joel died from a man. Nobody wants to play as your killer while trying to kill Ellie.

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Jc187_•

You are wrong on so many levels... and you also disprove your own points at the same time. Rockstar and CDPR definitely don't pander to any agenda leftist or otherwise. Even your queen Anita Sarkeesian was pleading with CDPR to pay her money to tell them they were misrepresenting groups, in her opinion... they told her to fuck off.

You say they are left leaning companies cos they have gay characters... guess what? They arent leftie companies and the people complaining about tlou 2 didnt complain cos there were gay characters in the game. So what does that tell you? Well, first there's no homophobia as those characters haven't been protested against. Secondly those games haven't had any complaints about shoe horning propaganda in their games because they don't... their games and characters are good and very well recived.

Seeing as we've established those facts we can see that actually it's not the right or anti sjws as you call them who are should have games made for them it the other way around.

Imagine if a game was created as a totally sjw experience, centered around that and totally marketed as such... no one would buy it, not even sjws cos their not gamers and they don't but the products they lay claim to.

That's why ND marketed this game all about Ellie and Joel. Cos they no that this fake activism doesn't make bank. It's that simple.

They know if they had said this new story centered around a new androgynous 'female' character and her vengeance against ellie and Joel it wouldn't sell.

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juanche9•

Mmmmm CDPR is not conservative at all

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CharlieWhistle•

There's already a million of these. They're just normal games without violent anti-LGBT steroid hulks smashing lesbians that he hates.

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

There's already a million of these

Name some. From what I've seen, pretty much every AAA studio is sjw.

Even based polish cdpr are sjws, judging by the themes of cyberpunk and their employee's twitter accounts.

It breaks my heart :(

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CharlieWhistle•

Uhhhh nah I'm too lazy to name any.

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ay3jTeam Fat Geralt•

LOL @ you clowns trying to lynch Rockstar games like for 20 years and they don't give a fuck about being politically correct. Being a SJW cuckboy doesn't make you the supreme overlords of the left wing.

If anything, censoring people because you don't agree with them is like the definition of being a fascist. You guys are basically nazis with purple hair.

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Entrepeno0b•

For me, the issue isn’t having any character of any sexual orientation, race, or any diverse background the writers wish to introduce to the story.

The problem arises when they take an established franchise, where people have established expectations, and introduce or completely change characters or story for no plot-driven or character-development purpose other than introducing diversity in their story.

Now, that may be something a lot of people could accept if, while doing so, they didn’t disrespect established characters and plot which “happen” to be men and butcher their story, paint them as useless or dumb characters.

This induces an “us vs. them” mentality that naturally doesn’t sit well with anyone. You either embrace the diverse characters and new story and accept that suddenly your protagonist is a disposable, useless prop or you are closed-minded (or more insulting adjectives).

We have seen this happen countless times with franchises like Star Wars, Terminator, Ghostbusters, etc. and all it does is polarize the fanbase, inspire hatred between fans, produce disappointing sales numbers, and push more people to reject diversity instead of embracing it, which is the exact opposite of what they intend.

I know a lot of people take this chance to insult other people that don’t agree with their opinions (and I strongly disagree with that), but I do see a fair point when the fan backlash strikes, as they are hurt and disappointed that their characters/story have to suffer for this forced introduction of political views outside the narrative of their game/movie.

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TrumpGolfCourse12OP•

they take an established franchise, where people have established expectations, and introduce or completely change characters or story for no plot-driven or character-development purpose other than introducing diversity in their story.

They haven't introduced diversity, though. The first game had gay characters, so does this one.

I've seen the leaks and I don't get all the screeching about 'politics.'

Star Wars

See, I don't get the complaints about Star Wars. The sequels are considerably LESS political than the originals and prequels. They're silly kids movies. The prequels, on the other hand, were about how a politician uses nationalism and scapegoating to strip away liberties. In the originals, Lucas straight up said the empire was inspired by America and used a Nazi aesthetic.

So it seems 'politics' really just means women and minorities existing.

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Entrepeno0b•

Let me start off by saying I respect your views even though I do not agree with them.

I don’t want to get into the SW example you mentioned so not to steer the conversation away from the main point, but there’s a lot of controversy and fan backlash surrounding the new movies.

I think it’s great to have acceptance and diversity in real life and entertainment, and that everyone feels included. I don’t think anyone should have an issue having characters with different views/sexual orientation than them and identifying with said characters or their motivations.

In my opinion, I think the problem arises when a movie or videogame, while introducing this diverse characters, destroys their own story/universe/characters.

That’s what the causes the backlash, people are forced to embrace that their character/story gets completely altered by a new character/plot based on views they do not agree on, and it ignites the issue even further that they destroy a character/story which people identified with.

In the case of this game, I don’t think Joel's death or the introduction of Abby as a character was the main issue, it's that the game forces you to empathize with a new character that kills an established character and then forces you to play as said new character.

It does feel like they are conveying a message with all of this, but while doing so, they are destroying their own characters, which everyone loved.

Notice how there wasn't such a backlash for the DLC, where they established that Ellie is gay. That's completely fine, if she's gay it doesn't change a thing about the character or the story.

People are in uproar because nobody likes another person's opinion forced on them while destroying a character they love for a cheap drama stunt. It's just not good storytelling.

As a side note, it infuriates me that it polarizes a lot of fans and turns people against each other. Nobody can have an honest and respectful discussion about this because sooner or later some idiot comes around and starts insulting and then another one piles up on that insult, it really is disgusting (people calling names or offending each other for a f**ing video game is so dumb).

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