Hundreds protesting durring pandemic
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whdh.comPosted May 5, 2020, 4:16 PM UTC
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The protests were astroturfed targeting specific types of people to make it look like people support Trump's plan to do nothing. It's all MAGAts. Regular people would just call his office.
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But those people are all obviously gun nuts and Nazis, and not "regular people", and so it backfires, but they don't know that within their bubble.
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Exactly. They think they're making a big point. It really just highlights how few of them there are, and if there's not a huge onslaught of calls to Baker's office, they really aren't making a difference.
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It's like there should be a new version of the old Simon Says game called Darwin Says.
Oops! Didn't say Darwin Says so all you people.. bad news.
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idk a Ford from a Darwin but isn't that not an entirely accurate term because these people will end up bringing harm to innocent people nearby as opposed to just harming themselves? Also if they have already made babies with unfortunate ladies it's not exactly natural selection as the bloodline of said idiot still going forward.
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Panic porn.
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Have there been any cases of infection outdoors though? We know for sure that this virus really likes enclosed areas.
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There are pre publication research studies that indicate the majority of transmission occurs indoors. Risk of transmission is much lower outdoors provided social distancing measures are still in place. That's definitely not the case for the protestors. It's plausible there's at least one asymptomatic carrier in that group. With all the chanting and shouting, anyone within a 6 foot radius is likely exposed.
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Happy cake day!
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Oh wow, thanks!
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And they likely didn't stand still. How many people came into their 6' orbit?
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That is what im saying....Are we going to be able to find that new infections were contact traced to these protests? They had a huge feminist rally in Spain. Not sure if there is any data on that. We really need to know instead of relying on guessing. Why freak out about going to the beach when you don't have to?
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The virus doesn't care if you're inside or outside. If they're that close together, there's a risk of it spreading.
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This is a very ignorant question, which is fine I am glad you're asking.
Being outside is better, but if you're coughing, sneezing, wiping your nose or eyes, or talking within 6' you are definitely at risk of catching covid.
If someone has it and does not know or show symptoms and they accidentally spit a little while speaking and that gets on your sleeve and you then wipe your nose or mouth with said sleeve you can catch it. That area of your sleeve can spread it for days.
Coworker of mine works as a shopper for curbside pickup (groceries). She got it, and no one knows how. She never came in contact with anyone who was sick and it was before masks were allowed for employees at my store. That was a few weeks ago, we just got notified of our 3rd or 4th case in the store last night.
Not to mention this is a novel virus - I would not fully trust any information on it for at least a year, personally.
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It's not ignorant..It's a scientific question that needs reexamination...That is why there are peer reviewed papers on this topic. We know the obvious trouble spots. Nursing homes, Conferences, grocery stores, etc. I've going to fast food drive thrus, and I didn't get anything yet. Have there been major groups of people getting it at the beach or at a protest? E.g. Biogen conference. Nobody knows.
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I've going to fast food drive thrus, and I didn't get anything yet.
Operative word, YET.
Also, hidden caveat: that you know of. (Many people can be asymptomatic for weeks, while being an active carrier for the virus.)
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Also, the plural of "anecdote" is not, in fact, "data".
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We shouldn't act on the information, or lack of information, until we have done that study adequately.
I've going to fast food drive thrus, and I didn't get anything yet.
Well, now, THAT'S SCIENCE (hahaha j/k). C'mon.
You might be on to something. The three events getting some press are Biogen, Mardi Gras, and a funeral in Georgia. Mardi Gras was warm -- 70s and 80s -- and a lot of people were outside but there's a lot of through traffic all the way from airports and hotels and bars. We're far from an answer on that.
u/RockStarState is right. We have no information that we can trust yet. We need to stay in the envelope and not think things are just okay to try and see if they work out. We have experts guiding us. We should listen.
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Enclosed spaces make transmission easier, but mostly because everyone is closer to each other due to there being less space than outside. Packed together without masks yelling and chanting and then moving around so that the people your are closest to changes throughout the protest is definitely a high risk scenario. Indoor and outdoor on their own don't actually mean anything to transmissibility, your behavior has a much greater effect than your location. It's possible that enclosed spaces may have an extra effect by having less airflow to disperse particles, but if you are very close to another person and not using protection you have a high risk of infection regardless.
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yes I probably won't be interested in going to Disney world, but still. It something we should probably figure out...Especially now that the beaches are opening and stuff.
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The flip story title is 6,999,800 residents of MA stay at home shaking their heads while 200 protest in close physical proximity to each other with no masks..
Id saw Darwinism, but they're going to infect at least 3 people, which isn't Darwinism. Because those 3 people might not even know them, and just happen to go to the same grocery store as one of these people do.
That's why I get pissed when people say that it's their risk to take. It's not just their risk, they're risking the public health of their community and that's what pisses me off so much.
I don't know how they're calling that a "massive crowd." It's really not, as protests go.