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r/pcmasterrace•
Booce211

Why strive for 60fps? Or even 120+?

Question

Hear me out. I'm mostly a console player, I do have a PC, but it's basically decomposing at this point, so i'm looking to build a new one. I've been told to look for 60fps and higher, but I don't know why, so I figured the best place to get answers out of would be the place that insults 30 all the time.

I've gotten a 144hz monitor by recommendation of another sub, but I don't know why that seems to be the standard.

Most games i've played were at 30fps, so i'm probably in no place to be questioning why. I have seen 60fps but not noticed much difference between the two, it doesn't really seem so important to me that I have to get it. But subs like this always talk highly about 60 and even beyond that, so I feel like i've been missing out on something, like I truly haven't experienced 60fps.

And then things go even further beyond. Which makes even less sense to me. Is it just because I haven't really felt what it's like yet? Is it just something that, once I experience it, i'll never want to go back?

Posted May 21, 2020, 7:49 AM UTC

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AnishioR5 3600 / RTX 2060 Super •

The higher your fps the quicker the game refreshes the screen meaning the game will look and feel a lot smoother

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Booce211OP•

I've been told, many times. I've been shown, many times. But it just doesn't look that different to me, and yet many people seem to think that it's life changing.

I dunno, maybe it's just some ramblings of a console peasant. I might begin to see it when I actually do build my PC.

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NotYourEverydayDonutRyzen 5 3600 | 1080Ti | 16GB DDR4•

So here's the thing, you might not instantly see a difference going to 144hz, but get used to it for a day or two, then go back to 60hz, you will absolutely see the difference, everything will feel extremely choppy/laggy.

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AnishioR5 3600 / RTX 2060 Super •

It’s far more noticeable in games that have a lot going on at once like first person shooters. Once you sit down and play you’ll realise. I build my pc the other day and play at around 75 fps and I couldn’t imagine going back to 30

I recommend watching a video where it slows down the speed and it’s far easier to see what’s happening and why the impact is pretty big

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jott1293reddevil•

It really depends on the game. Fast paced fps and moba titles you might actually see a slight player performance improvement with high fps and a high refresh rate on the monitor. More detailed beautiful games will appear noticeably smoother at 60 fps than 30. I was sceptical myself when I first built a gaming pc. I now get grumpy playing console because it really does seem noticeably worse at 30 fps in games like the Witcher or assassins creed odyssey. Those visuals are really improved by playing on a pc.

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bobdabuildingbuilderR7 3700X,2070S,16gsRam,750psu•

If you don’t personally see any difference or care to tell the differences between frame categories then idk why you wasted money on a 144hz display..

30 frames is unplayable in competitive online play Thats most of the reasoning people recommend high frame rates, for games that are fast paced like racing games or shooters.

Mmos/RPGs won’t really benefit from 150fps lets say, they aren’t usually fast paced games.

Also if you’re a casual gamer that might game once a week it’s even less of a reason for You to care.

The overall goal for high frames is to have an uninterrupted experience over anything

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Booce211OP•

I bought the 144hz to see what it was like, as i've never had a 144hz display.

The competitive gaming point may be why i've never seen that much difference, as I don't play those games due to high ping (600-1000).

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bobdabuildingbuilderR7 3700X,2070S,16gsRam,750psu•

Yea ping can ruin the experience.

What games are you encountering that much ping?

Most ping I’ve encountered was around 250 as i can recall which is still too much

if you’re enjoying the display thats good, I’m not trying to bash you just trying to get to the facts of your decisions

Whats your specs as well?

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Booce211OP•

I get that much ping because i'm on satellite internet in a rural area in australia.

I haven't built the computer yet, it seems I forgot to mention that in the original post; I haven't experienced the monitor yet. But the CPU and GPU i'm going to be using is a Ryzen 5 3600 and RX 5700 XT

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bobdabuildingbuilderR7 3700X,2070S,16gsRam,750psu•

Ah ok, idk much about AMD GPUs but if you wanna video stream games like on Twitch Nvidia is better for that

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SolidSnakeOil_Currently banned due to butthurt mod•

Is your monitor even set to 144hz? There's definitely a visual improvement, especially in games with a lot of movement. If nothing else, once you're eyes have adjusted to games at a high refresh rate, will notice how janky 30 is.

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Booce211OP•

I haven't used the monitor yet, it's just set aside for when I actually build my pc as it isn't built yet.

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MrSnowyMan•

On higher FPS the game will be smoother and there will be less ghosting. You can't see much difference between 30 and 60 on screen, but there's a noticable difference of input delay, and of course the delay will be lower on higher FPS. In multiplayer games 60 is good and 120+ is much better. For like car games imo 30 fps is enough, but It's still good to have higher numbers constantly. And you'll see the true potential of a 144hz monitor if you hit 144FPS.

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wildhunt1993•

30 is too low....40 should be the new 30....40fps locked with a third person game is fine..... however for first person games single player, 50-60 is a must to enjoy smooth gameplay.... however if you have never played more than 30, just try 60 fps for a week and then go back to 30, you will see the difference....and for 3rd person games i feel anything above 60 is just waste of resources, why not get higher quality graphics with those extra resources. Also for multiplayer first person games, there is a huge difference from 60 to 144 or 120.....aiming and movement is so fluid..... EDIT: 40 fps doesn't feel smooth for all 3rd person games, like 40fps for RDR 2 feels smooth, but its not smooth for games like Gears 5, The division 2.

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Booce211OP•

try 60 fps for a week and then go back to 30, you will see the difference

I've heard that one before. Tried it on my ps4 pro with games that were said to have 60fps, went to a game that had 30, barely noticed anything.

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wildhunt1993•

Thats the reason....try 60fps with keyboard and mouse.....and not with a controller.... controllers take long to move the camera....

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Booce211OP•

I didn't know mouse and keyboard could be connected to a ps4.

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wildhunt1993•

No .,.i said try in a pc...ps4 dont allow keyboard mouse

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brokizoli•

You can, there are adapters. I haven't tried any of them though, so I don't know how well they work.

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Bradaz_27Desktop•

I used to think the same but after playing games at 60+ FPS, I can really notice the difference. 30 FPS just seems really sluggish and laggy but 60 seems to move a lot more fluid. It probably hit home because I went from playing Fortnite on the Switch to a PC with 3/4x the FPS and epic graphics settings lol

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brokizoli•

In fast paced games there is very-very visible difference between 30-60-120+ fps. If you mainly play RPGs or similar slow paced cinematic games then it doesn't matter, 30fps is fine.
But in shooters high fps makes tons of diffrence. It's way easier to follow fast moving objects/enemies and aim at them.

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spectxre•

the game just feels so much better to play at highes fps. 60 was far better than 30, 144 is far better than 60.

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