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The lawyer for Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused Joseph R. Biden Jr. of sexual assault, said Friday that he was no longer representing her, just two weeks after taking her on as a client.

Posted May 22, 2020, 3:48 PM UTC

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soapinmouth•

Man, watching this fraud fall apart has been so gratifying. So many idiots online fought so hard to die on her sword, every one of them should be exposed for their clear bias jumping in bed with the amount of red flags from the start.

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ucstructOP•

The worst part was the journalists that fell for it. I'm not talking about CNN, NY Times, Politico, or NPR who properly looked into it, but the far left crowd who didn't do any actual fact checking.

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fyhr100•

The far left didn't fall for it, they knew exactly what they were doing. Notice how they've been completely silent about it as of late.

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TheGreatGatsby21:GeorgiaSquare: Georgia•

Yep and notice Republicans have already moved on from this. They are back 100% focused on this debunked Ukraine story again.

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AerDragun:Bernie: Bernie Sanders for Joe•

Almost like there’s no real dirt to dig up on Joe Biden, so they have to make shit up instead

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The_Jade_Observer💵 Certified Donor•

IDK about far left, but many on Twitter still says Biden did it.

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fyhr100•

I'm talking about far left "journalists" that were trying to push the story. They were involved in the smear from the beginning and even helped coach some of the people involved.

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MuchoMarsupial:EU: Europeans for Joe•

Was just about to say. Lots of screaming on Twitter when the allegations turned up, veeery quiet now.

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19southmainco:newyork: New York•

you know who i’m most disappointed in? the Onion. satirists are supposed to be above the noise, but they jumped right in with the Creepy Joe shit and had no problem spreading the assault misinformation.

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giraffeaquarium:TexasSquare: Texas•

Good thing no one reads the onion anymore. It hasn't been funny in years.

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nlpnt•

It lost most of its' relevance when it went to what was once Gawker Media and the last of it when that went private equity. I still follow a couple of Jalopnik writers - Jason Torchinsky has similar tastes in weird little cars as I do - but that's about all I see in that corner of the internet.

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Dawnkeyhotee•

I think it's generous to call people like Katie Halper journalists

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thatgeekinit:Warren: Elizabeth Warren for Joe•

Let's just say that her presence on the "Useful Idiots" podcast is no longer ironic.

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Slabraton•

Katie Halper graduated from the Dalton School and was later on the faculty. I wonder what else she and Jeffrey Epstein have in common?

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TheGreatGatsby21:GeorgiaSquare: Georgia•

Tbf her story was out there for awhile and major news organizations wasn't reporting on it much because there was so much inconsistencies, conflicting interests and lack of corroboration. Of course this had Twitter frothing at the mouth that the news wasn't reporting it because some sort of conspiracy to help Biden. I think the delay in reporting such a constantly changing and inconsistent story that lacks corroboration is a good thing.

Unfortunately many news organizations chose to ignore all the flaws in her accusation when they did start to report it. Regardless, its been glorious watching this pathetic attempt to smear the reputation of a good man fall apart.

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just_one_last_thing:trans: Trans people for Joe•

Unfortunately many news organizations chose to ignore all the flaws in her accusation when they did start to report it.

Yeah it's really surprising how the things that kept them back from reporting were all left out of their own stories once the Intercept took the plunge.

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Thybro•

The Intercept lost the little ounce of credibility they somehow still had. And so should every outlet that serve as her mouthpiece without asking any relevant questions.

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xilcilus:Beto: Beto O'Rourke for Joe•

It was like catnip to the far left crowd - they wanted any kind of evidence to not like Joe. The truth never mattered.

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whateverturtleman•

I can't speak for all of them but I can speak for myself of I'm not going to discredit her because it's not my place to immediately discount a survivor and say it's bullshit just because.

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am710:Hillary: Hillary Clinton for Joe•

It's not "just because" at this point, though. There is a ton of evidence against her. Her story changes every other day.

I am a survivor of sexual assault myself and I am furious at what she is doing to the MeToo movement.

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xilcilus:Beto: Beto O'Rourke for Joe•

I respect your opinion but I do hope that you vote for Joe given the accusation doesn't seem to even have much of circumstantial evidence.

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DontEatFishWithMe💵 Certified Donor•

There is overwhelming evidence she lied at this point. It’s disrespectful to actual survivors to say she belongs in the same category.

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hfxRos•

It's not even so much that they hate Biden, they just love Bernie Sanders to the point of deification, which is never healthy in politics.

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Amy_Ponder:Warren: Elizabeth Warren for Joe•

That's a problem, but when Bernie himself endorsed Biden a lot of the people who'd been worshiping him the day before immediately turned on him.

Make no mistake, they're part of a concerted campaign designed to bring down Biden from the left so Trump can waltz to an easy victory. And sadly, a lot of good people got tangled up in it.

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suprahelix🔬Scientists for Joe•

They don’t care about Bernie. Bernie is a prop for them. They just want to burn shit down.

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AnywayGoBills•

I think they should get it worst of all. They didn't fall for it, they orchestrated it.

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TheAdamZeitoun•

Can someone walk me through how this is different then let’s say the Brett kavanaugh issue? I thought there was no hard evidence in that case either. Genuinely asking.

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MSeanF:Pete: Pete Buttigieg for Joe•

There was one Kavanaugh accuser whose credibility was on a similar level to Tara's. She was the one that Avenatti was representing. Her accusations fell apart and were mostly dismissed as not credible by the MSM.

The other big difference is the manner in which Biden and Kavanaugh have personally responded to the accusations. Biden never stooped to personally attacking Ms Reade, and has called for an investigation into her charges from the beginning. Kavanaugh, on the otherhand, personally attacked his accusers, resisted any calls for investigation, and had a very public temper tantrum during his confirmation hearings, which culminated in a tearful rant about his fondness for beer.

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yaleric🌆 YIMBYs for Joe•

I'm happy that Biden isn't a rapist, but I'm still very sad about the impact this story will likely have on the broader MeToo movement.

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ucstructOP•

Maybe I am naive, but I honestly think it will benefit from having cases that were taken seriously and vetted correctly. It lends credit to cases where there is a lot of substance.

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DontEatFishWithMe💵 Certified Donor•

I hope so. This shook me on a lot of levels.

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See_Double_You•

Right!?

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Joe Biden really is a fuckin diamond.

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dinu_45•

Many #MAGAts were like “ joe biden is a rapist” but then you brought the 27 sexual assault allegations and they say that they are “fake news”.

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Mornarben•

I don't like that you've crossed out "lady". She's still a human and still deserves that dignity.

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soapinmouth•

You're totally right, let emotion get to me, sorry about that. I edited that out now.

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None of them will ever be heard from again. They were never wrong.

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diamond:Pete: Pete Buttigieg for Joe•

Wow sounds like some powerful people might have gotten to that lawyer.

LOL. Because apparently the DNC and Joe Biden are somehow more powerful than the President, the Senate, and the Justice Department.

OK.

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aslan_is_on_the_move:Joe:•

And they're powerful enough to get to the lawyer, but not powerful enough to make sure this story didn't come out in the first place?

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diamond:Pete: Pete Buttigieg for Joe•

Schrodinger's Deep State

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NeverTrustATurtle•

After everything we’ve been a witness to...

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RubenMuro007:Bernie: Bernie Sanders for Joe•

I looked at that tweet and honestly, it would be ridiculous to create a story that the lawyer was “bribed” to not take on a case in which the lady committed perjury.

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Mysteriagant🕊 Progressives for Joe•

Evil Democrats control everything. Sure Trump is President and Republicans control 2/3rds of the federal government but that doesn't help fear mongering

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LeoMarius:MarylandSquare: Maryland•

Reade committed perjury in court in Monterey, derailing a conviction that she was a witness to. She has a long trail of lies and scams behind her.

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maharaja_milan•

Clearly the DNC controls a lawyer who has donated to Trump and the RNC

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IndWrist•

Every woman deserves to be heard. But if they’re full of shit it’s totally cool to not listen.

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Listen to them, then check out what they're saying. If it's a bunch of lies, you don't have to listen to the lies

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TheGreatGatsby21:GeorgiaSquare: Georgia•

Yep, give them the benefit of the doubt but if the story does not hold up to scrutiny they lose that benefit.

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sirtaptap:fist: Black Lives Matter•

Gotta listen to figure out they're lies, but you don't have to believe them once they're clearly not on the ball

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RunningNumbers:Pete: Pete Buttigieg for Joe•

Try to be more kind. There is not point to be vindictive. The truth is coming out. Be a better person.

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lizzyborden666•

Well Well Well. Looks like he got tired of making a fool of himself defending her.

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soapinmouth•

Probably tired of being lied to over and over by his own client.

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lizzyborden666•

That was my thought too.

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noemailforreddit•

Isn't this why Trump goes through so many lawyers?

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lizzyborden666•

Yep.

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gunsof•

I suspect it has something to do with how she wants to sue everyone who disagrees with her on twitter. She's been angry about it from the start issuing cease and desists herself. That kind of person doesn't get smarter with an important lawyer, she already went after the horse sanctuary, she's probably been mailing her lawyers a list demanding they do something.

That and the perjury cases potentially coming up, not a great time to be defending her.

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neuronexmachina:Warren: Elizabeth Warren for Joe•

He also agreed to be her pro-bono lawyer as a way to attack Biden, not to defend her in the perjury case that's likely forthcoming.

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Clementine922•

I don't know if it could be perjury, I'm not aware of her making any statements under oath; but absolutely could be libel.

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Measure76:WashingtonSquare: Washington•

The perjury cases are about her representing herself with credentials in previous court cases, and her now being found to not have those credentials.

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lizzyborden666•

From what I’ve read she billed herself as some kind of expert on domestic violence based on a degree that is now in question. She testified under oath so if she lied about her qualifications it’s perjury.

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sryyourpartyssolame:Warren: Elizabeth Warren for Joe•

That's the scummiest thing I've ever heard

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jcs50:northcarolina: North Carolina•

She also has like 4-5 different names she goes by, that alone is sketch AF.

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giraffeaquarium:TexasSquare: Texas•

It is perjury, will be interesting to see if she is prosecuted. She lied about several of her qualifications on the resume submitted to the court (the non existent degree, her job title with Biden and that she was a visiting faculty member at Antioch).

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TrundleMugs:Warren: Elizabeth Warren for Joe•

Unfortunately it seems like a lot of people stopped paying attention to this after the allegation came out. They just heard a Biden allegation and went "Oh cool, Biden is a rapist. No more info required".

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AerDragun:Bernie: Bernie Sanders for Joe•

Those people were never gonna vote for him anyway. They’re just using this as an excuse. It’s what they want to believe, which is disgusting.

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Kostya_M•

This is why I disagree that we should stop talking about her. Her lies need to be publicly discussed and blasted everywhere so people don't believe her claims.

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Same here. Not talking about Buttery males didn't work out. The more we talk about how this was never true the better.

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Skiinz19•

Well not her lies but her mischaracterization, something definitely happened. We just dont know what and to what extent.

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UmmahSultan:Joe:•

Why do you think that something happened? Given that she's a compulsive liar whose story changes every week, isn't it more likely that nothing happened at all?

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Skiinz19•

Her mom called larry king explicitly stating something happened enough that she wanted to contact the press

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compounding•

I was right there with you about “something happened”, but I’m not even sure of that anymore...

A coworker from the time has already explained that she was struggling with her duties and erroneously complained to him she was terminated for “medical reasons”.

It seems possible that she was already searching for excuses to give for being fired, and the story she gave to friends and family about that would explain their vague contemporaneous accounts as well as why she claimed to have filed a complaint but never actually did... she knew it was false and didn’t want to do anything official because she just needed an an excuse, but her mom insisted she make a complaint and so she claimed she had done so while never actually following through.

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Skiinz19•

Interesting. Have any sources of that? I think the mom calling Larry king insinuates something happened.

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EKSev•

Her expert testimony is under scrutiny because she lied about her credentials. Means verdicts could be overturned due to her perjury. She’s a serial liar and they probably said “oh fuck this”.

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If two women of color got life in prison because of her "expert witness" testimony that victims totally always change their stories...

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EKSev•

Victims don’t always change their stories. Sorry if I’m misreading what you said.

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compounding•

What you are missing is that Reade claimed that they do in testimony as a fraudulent “expert witness” and helped sentence several people to life in prison as a result. It’s one of the reasons why the cases she perjured herself in are being suddenly reconsidered...

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EKSev•

Ah ok i get it now. Perhaps the wording of ur first post 😉

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sirtaptap:fist: Black Lives Matter•

Ironically she appears to have convinced the jury someone was lying BECAUSE they changed their story if I'm reading it right.

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ryanc533•

Where’s that dumbass that said “the dam is breaking” a month ago lol

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JaneyBGoode•

FYI, the reason lawyers typically to withdraw in these circumstances is because they know a client is lying and are prohibited by ethical rules from continuing to represent the client. For instance:

Model Rule 4.1 Truthfulness in Statements to Others

"In the course of representing a client a lawyer shall not knowingly make a false statement of material fact * * * to a third person."

Model Rule 3.3: Candor Toward the Tribunal

"A lawyer shall not knowingly * * * offer evidence that is false."

Also, lawyers also have duties of confidentialty to clients, so if a lawyer does withdraw due to rules 4.1 or 3.3 or a similar rule, they can't *say* that's why they are withdrawing.

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socratespoole•

Well, those are possible reasons. Representation could end if if the legal fight is not worth continuing based on a lack of evidence or an abundance of cost.

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DontEatFishWithMe💵 Certified Donor•

I knew this story was bs, but I am surprised at just how thoroughly this has been blown to pieces. I expected Reade to have some emotional problems and a thirst for attention. I didn’t expect her to be a serial perjurer who possibly helped send innocent people to prison.

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Rancerle•

Or even worse, who could get legit convictions of people who actually do deserve to be in jail thrown out because she lied about her credentials.

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neuronexmachina:Warren: Elizabeth Warren for Joe•

I was thinking last night that there was no way a competent lawyer would have let Reade respond with those comments + "transcript" like she did. Wigdor has his issues, but he's competent.

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Kostya_M•

I wonder if he called her irate asking WTF she was thinking or if he just said he's done with this shit.

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RegalSalmon•

Generally speaking, the last person you want to lie to is your lawyer. When you lie to your lawyer, you cause them to rip their own reputation to shreds. This, and non-payment, is typically why you'll see a lawyer disassociate themselves from a client.

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GOB_Farnsworth•

Rats fleeing the sinking ship.

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Retil-iH:Blue_Dog: Blue Dogs for Joe•

Damn, someone doesn’t want to be lashed to a sinking ship

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kerryfinchelhillary:ohio: Ohio•

I saw holes from the beginning.

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TheFishSeattle•

Just let this non-story die. Seems clear it was orchestrated

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benadreti✡ Jews for Joe•

holy snap

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punarob•

I guess the Russian oligarchs paying for her representation by this Trumpster lawyer who also represents them realized the jig is up with her insane non-story and don't want to waste more money on it.

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LeoMarius:MarylandSquare: Maryland•

Reade is a scam artist and congenital liar. Someone paid her to attack Biden, probably a Russian agent or Republican operative.

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Rancerle•

I think she just did it for the attention personally, like the fact that this flaired up after Bernie abdicated makes me think it wasn't even about him being her favorite primary candidate.

Way too many holes to be a Russian intelligence job though.

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GMACD1•

🤣

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NimusNix•

Welp.

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