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Who is your top player "textbook"?

So in commentary there's this "textbook" descriptor that is often applied to either players in general or specific tactics they use. Since watching and analyzing top players is one of the best ways to improve, who is your SSBM textbook and why? For me as a Sheik, I'd say probably Faceroll and Spark because they both pursue optimization, tech-chasing, and easy/reliable reactions but still give in to impulsively creative or otherwise unconventional options on occasion (ledgeplay, combo extenders, poof shenanigans). M2K/Plup/Swedish may all be "better", but stylistically I identify more with those two. Would love to hear the community's thoughts about different mains.

Posted May 26, 2020, 9:02 PM UTC

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VotedBestDressed•

Armada sets are the literal Peach bible, you don’t need any other book.

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nmarf16SSBM•

I mean honestly you can get a lot from Llod too, he’s done well vs puff and yoshi among other floaties

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BlackFate98•

As a Marth main: Fendy

jk its Zain

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RobbyJohnson•

I remember years ago man if Zain could edge guard like M2K. Now I think man if M2K could edge guard like Zain.

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King_Caelestiscael•

S2J

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Artelinde•

As a Samus main, I don't even know anymore.

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MomentoMiri•

Come back duck, we need you.

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Sirtrumpetsalot•

:((((((

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Square_Jellyfish•

I try to look at all top player foxes, and try to get some things from them. As a fox player, leffen is most likely going to be the textbook. I model my base fox on this guy, and then extend with other foxes in certain situations for example:

KJH: add niche technical extensions and optimizations.

Armada: add niche punish mixups that work better against human players

Mang0: Add some approaching mixups, nonstandard combos and situations, and timing when to increase pressure on the opponents.

My execution is nowhere near these players tho.

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videogamefool11•

Ginger

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CobaKid•

I'd say none for sure. He does so many things that are clever and just work. The only falcon I see doing the drop from ledge bair for edge guards. The only falcon I see who does empty jump in neutral to run up grab. There's also the jabs to roll read, up bing people who are shielding on the platform and he tomahawks more than anyone I've seen

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PENZ_12•

He definitely has a handle on those mind games.

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hiten42•

Mango Falco vs Marth is really good to learn from in neutral, but I hate watching Mango in general from a learning perspective because he does things that I can't emulate. He sees things that I can't see.

Old PPMD vods are still applicable for better neutral and Ginger is really good as well.

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PM_ME_THEM_BOOTS•

Mang0s bird is just so fucking cool, it definitely can become a problem trying to study it. we're all playing melee, yes, but he's out here playing Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube

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patricktercot•

As a Yoshi main, aMSa is legend

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teh_magik•

Mango Fox

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Verate•

I like to model my play style after mango fox too, but in terms of fox fundamentals, I think Leffen is by far the best to learn from.

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teh_magik•

If you are just trying to win, maybe

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floppy1000Amar•

The correct answer for Marth is definitely Zain. He plays to all of Marth's strengths: phenomenal dash-dance, great grab game, huge combos.

That being said, I actually still aspire to play like Ken: an aggressive Marth looking to force plays onto you, running in as much as possible, applying forward pressure.

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optisadvantage•

spark sheik

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optisadvantage•

and plup

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PurplePearGamingMelee is Movement•

It used to be Westballz 4-5 years ago, but now it's Mango falco. He's super gotten his bird down to just be a monster in both neutral and punish game, and he by far has the most dynamic falco game in the biz

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Qkwo•

Mang0 is just so hard to emulate sometimes bc he just does things nobody else thinks of

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PurplePearGamingMelee is Movement•

Yeah, and he's been playing so long he knows what works in every matchup.

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ShackAttaq•

EZ$

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leff

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MomentoMiri•

PPMD and Zain Marth.

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