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darniam

Dardo's view about WEEK 2

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Hello ! i hope all of you had a great day.

This evening Mr.Dardo director of LoL at FNATIC streamed a discussion about our weekend losses/our drafts/our chances of reaching playoffs and worlds. Here is a bullet points summary :

  • The begining of this split in particular will have a lot of surprises and although our team didn't envision them to happen in this week, it did happen.
  • VS MAD :
  1. We tried some stuff; we prioritized Graves and Soraka, it may have surprised a lot of people but it was also done in scrims and it worked.
  2. We had a good game but we also commited some mistakes;
  3. Although we should be critical and analyze our mistakes, we had an unlucky game (Orianna surviving with a slither of health/Stealing drake).
  4. This comp was expiremented throughout the week in scrims and wasn't a sudden inspiration at the draft phase. We didn't want to dismiss the comp as a failure from just one try.
  5. We couldn't reach Orianna and it made us lose our game.
  • VS ORIGEN:
  1. We tried the same comp with a small change (EKKO<=>TWISTED FATE), we thought that EKKO could've reach Orianna.
  2. We had a good early game and a good lead, but in teamfight we didn't had enough damage to win them.
  3. At the end it was an issue of how we understood this comp and how we could optimize it, the opponent also did a great job of reading our intentions.
  • We should not overreact, it's the early part of the split/week 2, we tried some comps because we did not want FNATIC to be a flat/predictable team once playoff comes.
  • It's good to try stuff in the early split, we're still 3-2 and still 3rd with g2/og/sk.
  • It's true that we had a good advantage and we lost it but we shouldn't be worried about it in week 2.
  • We don't care if we're 1st/2nd/3rd/4th as long as we come strong and prepared to playoffs and have a good shot at it, that's the real goal.
  • Dardo doesn't decide whether we try stuff or not, mithy knows what he's doing and he's happy if the team moves proactively in this direction.
  • We have a lot to improve on but we need to try stuff.
  • Even if it's regular season a loss is a loss, it's frustrating but we shouldn't create false drama/narratives and focus on getting stronger and growing as a team.
  • Week 3 is VS Rogue and G2; it's going to be a tough week but we should not be concerned about the result as long as we're improving and getting stronger.
  • We will analyze this week results/take aways and we'll decide on how we want to move forward in the upcomming weeks.
  • Rogue is playing solid and G2 always played solid, they had some issues that they could not control and he's happy that they're back on they're feet; we want to face a strong G2 and win but regardless of the result we want to improve a lot.
  • Whether we go 2-0 or 0-2 it will not make that much of difference if we make it to the playoffs in the grand scheme of things.
  • We want to win and we have a decent chance of winning the 2 games.
  • On a tangent, he received a lot of DMs about Fnatic having a mental block against G2: We don't have any mental block against G2.
  • We were a bit unprepared in the spring finals but we also learned from it, we've come from a new team that changed the whole coaching and management structure + having a new jungler.
  • All of our players need to improve individually and bring something to the team. Even Rekkles who showcased great individual performances can improve more.
  • We hope for a really good split and playoffs. And we hope to getting to the finals vs G2.
  • We shouldn't get TOO emotional, we still have amazing players.
  • All teams start at a threshold and keep growing, don't be too worried we hope for more drastic improvement in the team.

So If you read through this tedious section of words feel free to voice your opinion in the comments.

I hope that everyone will be patient with Fnatic this week (which is tougher than the precedent) and hope that the team showcase growth that our fandom can be proud of.

Posted Jun 21, 2020, 10:57 PM UTC

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PedroLRebelo•

Exactly the point of view I hoped to see from the management. Keep testing comps on the rift, we should probably reach playoffs even if we try new stuff every game so I'm really not concerned. We have great players and a great team and I feel this approach is what will get us further ahead in the grand scheme of things. Keep working hard lads.

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iErnie56•

Yeah 3-2 in the first two weeks is honestly better than I had hoped for with their cursed start of the split, and they're doing that while trying new stuff. I have no doubts that we'll make playoffs, and they will learn from losses more than they do from wins.

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TJofDaEast•

I actually loved the experimentation Fnatic is doing, Nemesis and Bwipo need to be able to be consistently playing the carry role if we want a good shot at worlds, and I believe this is the perfect time for experimentation as long as we get to top 4.

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Behind_You27•

Nemi has to learn a lot about flanks though...All his flanks he got basically one shot and lost the fight and game.

Good time to practice them now.

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TJofDaEast•

Yeah, even his azir game last year, (don't know against which team) but all the gold and resources were funnelled into him, and he couldn't perform that good, his decision making needs to improve, because I think his mechanics are top-notch. Like his sidesteps actually put half the LEC players to shame.

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Behind_You27•

This one outplay on ekko was also really good. So it is there but has to get more consistent.

They will watch the VODs and improve their mistakes.

šŸ‘šŸ»

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TJofDaEast•

That 1 for 1 was good and so was the time he wasted on the soul point drake, the ideas were there but the execution was a bit iffy.

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Rayser1•

Shock horror who would've thought that FNC had tried this draft in scrims and it had given them success. Find it hilarious looking back at the post game discussion on the main league subreddit with all the hot takes. Hope they perfect and do give it another go at some point. Wonder if Aatrox may have been a better option

Interesting that he says they weren't prepared for spring, I wonder what he felt they needed to have done differently

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lilQuebo•

How can people overreact? I’m Fnc fan since season 1 and I love what I’m seeing this split, hell, I’m sure we will win this split. Our boys going out of their comfort zone, when they could’ve played their standard and finish regular split 16-2, but would that be worth it just to lose the final 2-3 to G2? Fnatic players are ascending, even Rekkles who’s top2/3 adc player on the planet this year expands his champ pool, Nemesis picking assassins like Ekko, Selfmade being primary carry and many other great things.

They experimented with a new teamcomp (who was shitty btw, but if they picked Kindred instead of Graves that’s S tier teamcomp), and they had 2 50/50 game’s against 2 very strong teams, this week could’ve finish 2-0, and it would’ve if not for the fact that the level of competition this split is highest in Europe’s history. We’ve go 70 points from spring split, all we need is to get enough points to get to top4, which should be super easy even with experimenting on stage.

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blueripper:lol:•

People don't have patience and expect every single play to work out for us. Nemesis has had two rougher weeks by his standard and people are already asking for a replacement and I don't even have to mention how much shit Hylli gets every single time that he has to play aggro and the team loses.

It's good that they're trying new things so that there will be no more surprises in big series when they just get out drafted and hopefully Nemesis will be back to his usual self. From the voice comms we can see that it isn't just Nemesis talking like it was in the past so he just needs a little bit of time to adjust to the new game plan and playstyle.

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Silahshor•

I for myself am supporting 100% the idea of trying new things. However any new strategy is as viable as the players' ability to execute. I do not think FNC's current roster is capable of doing that.

Give that same comp that didn't work for FNC this week to any top tier LPL team or G2 and we'll have a chance to see whether it works.

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Behind_You27•

Iā€˜m just sad about my fantasy league....Traded cards for Rekkles and he doesn’t do any damage. So all bonuses didnā€˜t matter.

##FeelsBadMan

Well, my bad. šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø

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CallUno:staff:•

Thank you for the detailed summary!

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darniamOP•

np <3

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Nzod•

On a tangent, he received a lot of DMs about Fnatic having a mental block against G2: We don't have any mental block against G2.

You'll have to prove that

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darniamOP•

what do I have to prove ? XD

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Nzod•

That there's no mental block

Saying it is cool but showing it is better

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darniamOP•

XD Ok man, let me enter a hyperbolic time chamber, train league 24/7, destroy people in soloq, get noticed by FNC,sign a contract with them and beat G2 so i can prove it to you.

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Nzod•

What are you blabbing about ?

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panapunker•

Make Nemesis pick LeBlanc and I will believe all of this.

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Ras_OKan•

I do not quite agree with all of his points. But let's see how things go next week. No matter what they say going 3-5 from 3-0 would be a drastic fall.

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AxiomQ:csgo:•

Such as?

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