r/Chikara•
deltopia

Quackenbush and Wrestle Factory trainers accused of some pretty unsavory shit...

https://twitter.com/CZWiggy/status/1275600745870606337?s=19 and a few other recent posts on her timeline.

Josh Wells posted some appalled reaction tweets; Doc Diamondfire posted something that, to me, read like he had a bad feeling about Chikara and was glad he got out when he did.

Posted Jun 24, 2020, 3:50 AM UTC

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QuackenColony•

I was always aware of the adultery, but I always push that aside as a private matter. Reading the other stuff has made me completely numb. Mike Quackenbush was my favorite pro wrestler. So much so I made my online namesake after him. It's a terrible situation and I'm sorry for being a supporter for so long.

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WishOnSuckaWood•

This hurts the most. I feel like there's an iron ball in my chest. And everyone keeps referring to these open secrets..I wish I'd known. I thought of that place as a home away from home.

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VforFivedetta•

I don't know what they could do to get me to step foot back inside that building now. I guess we'll have to follow the wrestlers who aren't scumbags to other promotions.

Dropkick Depression is run by Terra Calloway, that should be a safe environment.

Edit: Whoever is downvoting everything in this thread is human garbage.

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jki2876•

these things are so often institutional but i wanted to keep my belief in the company as a whole but now that's gone. damnit

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deltopiaOP•

I'm seeing some of the workers on Twitter who seem to be in shock and pain as well. Maybe the rot was concentrated at the top and the workers shouldn't be considered tainted or complicit... but that's a lot easier to think about the new guys, like Wells and Faraday and Boomer, than it is with the old guard like Icarus, Hallowicked, or Ophidian. I don't know if that's fair of me to think that way or not.

I'll be really interested to see how the old guard responds in the next few days.

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jki2876•

that's the question that'll haunt me throughout this process. i don't want to doubt the new guys but who knows although the pain is raw enough i'm inclined to believe them. in a later tweet wasn't icarus directly implicated? quack and anyone who was complicit needs to be gone. i've said that as painful as this is that this is like an overdue controlled burn for a toxic industry but god with the face the promotion put out publicly...

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deltopiaOP•

The names were blocked out, but yeah, Icarus as the long-time vet and Chris Hero as the trainer were the names I found myself wanting to fill in.

In the r/squaredcircle thread on this, they're dredging up rumors about Quack from a long time back. Not sure what he can do to rehab his name after this -- and his name is pretty synonymous with Chikara.

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jki2876•

a part of me wants to say that those not involved should just build a new promotion. i don't think quack can personally it was his responsibility as the highest person in the promotion and based on what we've heard he failed and not just once either. there's a tweet that mentioned icarus explicitly.

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AndrreewwBeelet•

This hurts so much. I know most, if not all, of you have no clue who I am. But I've been striving for years to be part of CHIKARA...literally thousands of dollars on seminars from Quack and Co., Booking as much CHIKARA talent as I could out west (thankfully, none of the accused) etc. etc. For years, it was the only wrestling that my daughter would watch. I pushed dozens of students Quack's way for seminars both in-person and online, as recently as a month ago. I thought CHIKARA was the one Goddamn promotion in this whole rotten business that would be pure.

Some people may not get it, and that's fine. But for me, this might be the end of my career. I can't believe I would be such a poor judge of charecter, such a supporter of a foul, disgusting person (and people) and invest so much emotional labor into a company that was pure evil from the inside out

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His wife found out because the guy was going through peoples bags during training and going into their cell phones and sending their nudes to his own number and eventually got caught by a trainee who called him out and he denied it, and then he got caught by his wife soon after. Quack told his wife that some of the trainees would hit on him because he was their favorite wrestler. Rumor was that the trainee told his wife who looked into it, found pictures, but also found out he was fucking trainees. "Someone else" there was doing the same shit.

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ChikaraFan•

I am confused exactly what everyone is upset at quack for. I don't mean that sarcastically clearly when you have the likes of HolloWicked and Dasher leaving something is going on.

Like are people mad at the fact that he supposedly slept with a female adult tranee in 2012? Are there multiple adult affairs after this? Were there allegations he did not follow up on?

I feel like everyone knew about the Saturnye rumor. The Icarus thing was one female saying another person told her that Icarus proclaimed look at my phone here is an underage girl I slept with? How do you announce this is a locker room full of the most woke people on the indie screne?

Progress Wrestling is still a thing a they had multiple underage and actual rape allegations.

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ioshiraibae•

It's not appropriate to sleep with trainees. Wrestling needs to hold itself to the standard of the rest of society.

It's scummy. And in this business from the start were told the power men hold over us in regards to sex and our careers. This is like 100x more with trainers. Basically they create an atomsphere where you feel you have to sleep with them or else they'll sabotage your career. And a lot of times they do manipulative shit like this. It's why trainers shouldn't be sleeping with trainees. If sleeping with young wrestlers is important to you either don't become a trainer or train the gender you aren't attracted to.

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JoeyGregarious•

Sounds and looks like the fire starter has other motives and lost credibility posting a tweet saying she will burn chikara down. Sounds like shes using this as an recuse to get revenge.

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