Why am I umming and ahhing about meeting friends this weekend when stuff like this is going on?
Posted Jul 4, 2020, 9:44 AM UTC · locked
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I hate people
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The real question is, why the hell are they sending 25+ officers in with no protective gear and then retreat at seemingly the first sign of confrontation. It makes them look weak and emboldens these thugs and puts the safety of everyone else at risk. Either go in hard and break it up or don't even bother ffs.
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Because it's not usually expected that breaking up a party will cause people to attack and throw missiles at the police.
The last time I went on a night out beforrenthe virus the police (2) came Into the packed pub and arrested a man, we didnt all rise up and fight the bobbies. Its not nornal.
It looks like something from the troubles in northern ireland not english police ending a party.
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It wasnt expected but it should be now, like I say stuff like this just makes those groups bolder. This'll happen more and more if the police don't start coming down hard on them.
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I don’t think it matters.. they’ll just come back in the morning with 5-10x as many of them and arrest the lot of them for questioning. Stupid people.
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I have my doubts that this is what happened
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Exactly.
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If the police had turned up mob handed in full riot gear there would have been a bunch of white liberals moaning about police oppression. I can guarantee that most of those lads parents would have welcomed the police being able to break up the group
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No, I think the 'white liberals' might have been concerned if they'd turned up mob handed and kneeled on someone's neck until they died, or beaten people to death, or indiscriminately fired bullets at people.
If they'd turned up with the correct gear, with the right number of officers and arrested people with only necessary force, most people would think that was fine.
You're just conflating two completely different issues, to push your own agenda.
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There absolutely would have been outrage from people of the police used their batons in breaking this up.
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Found the American
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Nah mate, I don't think they should have guns or kneeling on people's necks untill they die. On the other hand, there is something called reasonable force, the police should be deterant to stop people from commiting anti-social behavior. One minute these thugs are chucking glass bottles at police, the next they are chucking them at innocent bystanders.
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Re watch the video. At least 3 things thrown blindly by the police into the crowd.
I'm not siding with either side after watching. Both are guilty of shitty behaviour in this video.
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You can go meet friends, just be sensible and observe social distancing. Sit in a park of something. There are very few cases actually out there nowadays so long as you aren’t in a hotspot.
This is fucking stupid, however.
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Coronavirus deaths are significantly higher in BAME groups. Linked to every young person who gets infected at a party like this is an elderly person eventually ending up in an ICU.
If people are already at a disadvantage due to housing, poverty, or whatever else then it is selfish and irresponsible to put your friends and family at risk because you want to have a party.
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Keep the "AME" out of this mate. South and East Asian minorities arent the ones launching bricks at coppers to have parties.
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Not sure what your exposure is but a large number of my South/East asian friends families are pushing them to meet up and stuff even though they have at risk members. Same with my middle eastern family.
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And loads of white people too (probably more so), mate. Just look at the pictures of the beaches or VE day celebrations.
But south and east Asian families sure as fuck aren't throwing bricks at cops and having house parties.
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I reckon it’s about the same rate as black families throwing bricks.
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Not launching bricks by any means, but not respecting social distancing or lockdown rules over in Leicester.
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The Leicester outbreak seems to be traced to a few factories (eg. Boohoo's) that caused a few superspreading events.
No need to perpetuate absolute bs.
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More than that, also the fabrics factories where people are paid lower than minimum wage ran by unscrupulous people. But we can look at the areas where it has spread in Leicester and surmise exactly what we need to. Everyone from Leicester knows the demographics of the areas in question.
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Throwing the B under the bus, nice! /s
I'm not really a fan of the BAME grouping either. Each minority group have and face different problems in this country. It's good to join your voices, but not to inexorably fuse the identities as has basically happened.
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There was 2 raves mostly Black young people in a park near me, Police didn’t intervene probably because of all the Anti-Police BLM stuff recently. I know who it was because it was a friend attending it and posting Snapchat stories
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You must have some special eye, I can’t make out the colour of any of these kids
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There are plenty of other videos on Twitter. It's not exclusively BAME, of course, but it's disingenuous to imply my comment was in any way racist.
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Have you checked the Twitter account you linked there? Cause it looks pretty racist to me...
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I didnt, no. Sorry. Will unlink. Thanks for the heads up.
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I didn’t say or imply you were racist bud, this is whole thing/incident is new to me
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Because you have a brain and want to be alive in 6 months time 👍
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I'd be surprised if 1 in a 1000 people at that party were dead in 6 months. From Coronavirus anyway.
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It’s not just the risk of death
It’s the risk of illness, which shouldn’t be ignored
And the risk of passing on to someone else, who might be more seriously harmed
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That may be but what about their parents, grandparents or other older relatives? This is in white city estate in West London, a majority of people who live here are from BAME backgrounds. It's now been shown that BAME dying of COVID are on average 10 years younger, that coupled with overcrowding in housing is a recipe for disaster.
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Lol that's a good point
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alternatively because you have been bombarded with propaganda, if are you under 45, relatively healthy, and dont live with someone at risk if so then there is more risk of you dying or getting harmed from you going out drinking than from catching this virus
the risk of passing this on to someone who is at risk is only going to go up as shielding is stopped
the chance of side effects is minor for healthy people but you people seem to think this is a repeat of sars
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Most recent studies have found the potential of lung damage in recovered patients (including those that are asymptomatic), plus potentially higher rates of pre-diabetes and diabetes, plus if you are older and more susceptible to neurological conditions like dementia, recovering from Covid is showing a greater likelihood for triggering those conditions.
The science is new so grain of salt as always but it's showing there may be long term fibrosis of the lungs as a secondary issue (like in SARS and MERS - up to 5 years later in some cases).
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Yeah this, we have no idea about the long term affects of this virus and it has shown some pretty nasty lasting lung damage in quite a few people. I'm not risking that thanks.
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go and read the studies and the age of people involved in them though you are not going to find many people under 60 and not in good health generally, ideally we needed to stop them getting it in the first place, the best way to do that would have been controlled herd immunity, we want young healthy people catching this because that is the only way we can actually stop the at risk people catching it, the people who will develop major side effects or dementia, which is why all of you need to stop spreading the fear mongering propaganda
for every healthy person you convince to stay home that means another at risk person catch this, its all a numbers game at the end of the day and this virus is not going to go away until 80% of the population are resistant to it, you hold outs are keeping this virus in the general population longer because you read a headline or a shitty article and did not bother to look at the data for your self
the reason this is hitting old people so hard is your immune system gets weaker with age, (you lose a lot of tools from the belt, also you have less t cells which seem pretty important for fighting this)even if you have an asymptomatic infection your immune system still has to fight it, as old people have a weaker immune system they it has to respond more severely to stop the virus which leads to their immune system doing more harm than the virus
children have the best immune systems, they need them, but with this virus in a tiny minority of children the immune system over reacts and we get the shock syndrome, we can now effectively treat that and are not expecting any more deaths from it in the uk
the sources below are from china and the uae, both country are currently commuting genocide, can we have a source from Europe? seems a little fishy to me that we are not seeing the same data out of Europe
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Lung damage;
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.2020200843
33-57, mean age 45
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29089687/
21-73, mean age 42.5
Diabetes;
https://dom-pubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/dom.14057
38-70, mean age 47
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I am under 45, believe myself to be relatively healthy, and have not had physical contact with another individual in a lot longer than I’d like
My (confirmed) COVID infection resulted in me developing pneumonia. I did not die, nor did I come close. But I had the worst month of my life. My care cost the NHS thousands, and would have been financially very difficult for me if I needed to contribute to that.
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Why is this being downvoted!? People are so brainwashed.
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Fucking scum.
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No words for this...
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The last time I saw a video like this it was locked for racist comments. Which is a shame, because it doesn't matter what race creed sex or anything these people are - the way they're acting is fucking revolting.
I hope the police went back and nicked every last one of them.
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This is the reason why BAME communities are effected by coronavirus worse, doesn’t take a genius to work that out
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BAME = ?
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The accepted way of saying "not white".
It stands for Black, Asian and minority ethnic.
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Oh, thanks
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This is the reason why BAME
Keep the "AME" out of this mate. South and East Asian minorities arent the ones launching bricks at coppers to have parties.
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Let’s not blame an entire race for the actions of a few...
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Let's not stereotype all minorities for the stereotypes of one.
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Think this through... You’re saying to leave “AME” out of it but frankly it’s incredibly racist of the commenter to state this is a BAME issue at all.
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Seen plenty of Asian communities acting in the same manner, granted not South and East Asian
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Which Asian then?
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Just from my personal experience more West Asian
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No it is not. And racist comments like this do not help.
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Why do you think it is then? Coronavirus doesn’t discriminate, it’s due to the actions of others
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There are a huge number of reasons. There’s a whole government report about it. But this will include the fact that BAME people are more likely to 1) work in front line roles, 2) live in deprived communities and live in closer proximity to more people, 3) have health conditions that put them in higher risk groups.
One video of some people being idiots that doesn’t even show their race does not explain anything.
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They should have returned in numbers and arrested the lot of those selfish individuals. I hope they follow up, identify who is who and do so quickly. This lawlessness will end very badly.
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Why are people like this? Don't they want this to be over? Will they only start to care if someone they know died because of covid? They seem young, they'll be able to attend fucking thousands of stupid parties can't they stop themselves at least this fucking year? Seriously. These dipshits might not die from the disease but I hope one day they learn about potential long term damage to their lungs and what not.
I wish them all the worst and I don't care how it makes me sound like. Stupid pieces of shit
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Why? Stupidity.
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These people cannot think nor can they plan two days in advance. You want them to seriously consider the long term implications of some "good time with the lads"?
They probably think this is a victory as well, fucking bellends.
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Are you susprised? It's West London, look at the people who live there...
And they wonder why the BAME community has more deaths...
Or is it the virus that is racist?
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Black people typically have lower vitamin D levels than whites, which has been shown to have a strong clinical link to susceptability to COVID. So in a way the virus is racist.
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Bacardi?! Crazy mofo.
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Next weeks headline, Coronavirus resurgence in London especially in BAME communities,
Pick from list who to blame
Dominic Cummings BoJo Pierce Morgan Jezza Corbyn
About time these young adults took some responsibility for their actions if their parents or grand parents get ill it is their fault.
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So we’re going to ignore the fact that the police are forced to retreat from that
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Well in all honesty, if they went in hard, you'd have protests about police brutality and depending on the people involved - possible accusations of racism. Its sort of a lose lose situation for the police right now. Every thing they do will be criticized.
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This. Escalation would be counterproductive.
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The problem is if this keeps happening, these morons will get more emboldened. Look at them approaching the police and laughing. Eventually the police will have to change tactic and it'll be extra carnage for everyone.
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You're so right. This is just fucking sickening.
Fucking tramps, fucking selfish cunts, fucking ego driven FOOLS!
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Just so shameful. How can we change people who behave like this?
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Education 10 years ago.
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There's a follow up with the police turning back up but with the right equipment right? Right?
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Just remember the reason deaths and cases have fallen is because of people like you and me and the rest of this sub and the good people out there, and in spite of the people in this video.
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way
We have CARRIED THE SHIT out of this pandemic
If this was a game of CS:GO we would be top fragging and they would be diving straight into B with their glock and no armour