Pritzker announces new restrictions for recreational sports
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nbcchicago.comPosted Jul 29, 2020, 6:05 PM UTC
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nbcchicago.comGood! And if it can go further to limit the crowds at youth sporting events, that'd be great. The parks in Springfield are absolutely packed to overflowing with youth baseball and softball games. There are no parking spots left and people are parking on the grass. There are huge crowds and everyone is close and few are wearing masks. It's freaky and so I choose to avoid the parks altogether, even though it would be nice to take my evening walk on their trails and loops. Just doesn't feel safe with the crowds.
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And if it can go further to limit the crowds at youth sporting events, that'd be great.
He's already done that; complain to the park police to actually enforce the current rulings.
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Thanks! That's helpful.
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So why have level 4 if no sports in the 3 risk tiers can even be considered level 4?
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Currently nothing is at level four. This is a plan and framework that can be scaled as needed.
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This order is about creating infrastructure and plans for an adjustable response based on current situation. So they don't have to say all or nothing.
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So they don't have to say all or nothing.
Except they pretty much just said it's nothing. IHSA sports are cancelled for the year except baseball/softball, cross country, track , gymnastics, swimming (not sure how these last four will work without multi-team meets), and tennis. At stage 4, if we can't have a vast majority of sports at the youth or adult level, they'll never come back.
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the last four can have refs come in and take times and or scores at local semi-events and compare them to times at other local semi-events to get a competitive standing without ever needing groups of athletes to be in the same space at the same time.
you are so concerned about people who want to play to be able to, why aren't you out arguing against schools cutting kids from teams or not have lower athleticism options be mandatory. lets face it the system has always told most kids no you aren't good enough you can't play. now you are upset that the few who used to be allowed to play aren't allowed to do it at the level they want? give me a break and cry me a river.
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I'm way too old to play in a sport that can cut anyone anymore, but back when I was in school, in a very larger district in the 'burbs, everyone made the teams because we still only had just enough kids to make a team.
Cross country is about comparing times on a standard course. You can't do that at different locations. How are you going to try to beat a team who runs their 5k on perfectly flat ground if your course is up and down hills the whole way? Swimming (diving, really) and gymnastics have judging elements that absolutely require the same judges to give comparable and competitive results.
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I take a weird pleasure in coming to any Pritzker/COVID thread and seeing the inevitable collection of downvoted comments.
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Someone will have to explain to me this kind of bull shit one day.
So kids are allowed to do essentially whatever they want minus sports. You can go to team practices, commingle with friends, but you can’t play against other kids that you don’t know.
If I have to scientifically scale this measure it would increase the effectiveness of social distancing by .01. It’s just functionally pointless.
Ban all recreational sports at every age or level or don’t.
Kid goes to practice every other day with his team, contact tracing and possibly infecting the entire soccer team, comes home and infects his friends and their homes respectfully. But cannot play in a soccer game with other kids from a neighboring suburb.
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Its about scalable limiting of virus transmission opportunities. More virus, you lock down connections as much as possible. Less virus, you open up opportunities and move more towards normal.
It is about not having all or nothing. Its about watching infective rates and having lots of social levers and dials that can be adjusted to keep levels under control.
This is not going away for probably a year or more. Being able to adjust large amounts of social connections through tiered responses will make living with it easier and more bearable.
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Yes exactly so take extra precautions. These measures do sooooo little to contain the virus
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But they do.
Let's be real, kids in these age ranges are already playing together outside of organized sports and such. If someone gets it, that neighborhood is going to get it, regardless if you have organized sports or not.
But if you have competition in that same organized sport, you'll spread it to another 'pod' of kids / neighborhood. And with the delay in symptom onset (or no symptoms but still infectious), you could have one group spreading to multiple other neighborhoods before anyone in the first group tests positive.
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You are dramatically under thinking the level of cross community outreach that occurs in youth sports. My son plays 5 suburbs over with soccer then he will go to school. I can’t imagine how stupid this at 14-18, kids play in Bloomington to Chicago
This is utterly pointless once school starts.
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When did Pritzker say “kids can leave in mass [sic] to go to parties”? Also, I ran xc in high school. Most of the time I would be within inches of other runners during the majority of meets. Not socially distant and runners fling spit & snot through the air like nobody’s business.
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"People are being stupid in other ways so we should allow them to be stupid in this way!"
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This is a bit ridiculous. The entire state is in Phase 4, the highest phase before mass vaccinations and "winning" against COVID, yet this huge list of activities are essentially outlawed from competitive play with NO METHOD for how and when play could resume.
I thought Pritzker learned his lesson about applying state-wide crackdowns based on hyper-localized infection rates following the first 3 months of lockdown. Apparently not.
I guess I'll just accept my fate and embrace getting fatter and more un-athletic.
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you can still get up and exercise and go for walks and move heavy objects at home etc. In fact this order doesn't ban sports but limits their activities to responsible levels at the current infection rate.
Unfortunately sports cross the covid region lines.. this order is to help make sure athletic related infections dont. They can still practice and meet and in many cases play against themselves. They just can't travel or have full contact.
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you can still get up and exercise and go for walks and move heavy objects at home etc.
It's so enjoyable to throw a football back and forth to myself or shoot hoops alone or chase a soccer ball around the yard or do stick handling drills in the driveway. Let's remember that park districts still have restrictions on facility usage.
In fact this order doesn't ban sports but limits their activities to responsible levels at the current infection rate.
I never said it banned sports, I said it banned competitive play. I also take issue with the statement that it's bringing this to responsible levels at the current infection rate. Most of the state still has a sub-3% positivity rate. This is a blanket action across the entire state to address hyper-local issues in infection rates. That's bad governance that was addressed with the regional roll-out of Restore Illinois.
Unfortunately sports cross the covid region lines
For the most part they don't downstate where our regions are much larger.
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It's so enjoyable to throw a football back and forth to myself or shoot hoops alone or chase a soccer ball around the yard or do stick handling drills in the driveway.
There not worried about the 1 person being bored they are worried about the 12+ million people getting infected. You say 3% but put that in-perspective, 3% of 12.76 millions is almost 400,000 people that are infected. This stuff spreads fast. I get the worry about sporting events spreading the virus and am upset as the next person about shutting this down I have 2 high school athletes who I want to see play, but on the other side I work directly with people who are infected with the disease, it's a real thing. Yes it sucks and hopefully come spring things will be better.
Read this to put things in perspective how it explode.
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The entire state is in phase 4 for now. My region is on the verge of being sent back to phase 3. Allowing risky and, as much as I hate to say it, unnecessary events like high school sports to happen will only spread the virus more.
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I've lost weight since lockdown and my putting is awesome.
Quit being a whiney bitch and dont blame our fatass governor for your own issues
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More strange and arbitrary rules. Half the people, or more, are always going to be mad about this kind of thing. It is silly to think you can codify everything in life all authoritarian-style.
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The last time you posted this (I went back and checked) I said the same thing. I don't think you know what that word means.
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Oh good, another royal decree from King Pritzer.
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Lol ok
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What blows my mind is that Soccer and Basketball are somehow lower risk than competitive Cheer and Dance.
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Not all cheer has yelling. Look up all star cheer for examples.
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I use all-tempa cheer, the only yelling is when I don't tell my wife we need more and we run out on laundry day.
do they have skin-to-skin contact..? do they get sweat on each other..? unless it's done w/social distancing between participants- it's risky.
I coach competitive dance! Our halftime performances and such would be relatively low risk. However, I assume it's because for competitions there tend to be lifts and a lot of close proximity work that can't be socially distanced 🤷‍♀️
Me too. Soccer and basketball are at least as risky as football.
Full contact football has pretty much every player running into another player every single play. Soccer you run into another person far less often than that.
You're probably right, football is riskier, but I think what I should have said was football, soccer, and basketball all have enough close quarters, physical contact that they should not be played.
volleyball too- same as with basketball- you have everyone passing the same ball around. and in basketball- lots of skin-to-skin contact, skimpy uniforms compared to football, getting sweated on, playing indoors...it seems like it would definitely be high risk.
Cheer and dance involve a lot of proximity and touch between performers. In soccer and basketball, most touching between players is against the rules.
I feel like soccer is slightly better than basketball just since you're rarely touching the same ball. Granted you're still touching opponents and do occasionally have to pick up the ball. Everyone could wear gloves unlike basketball.
who fucking cares about cheer and dance. they should shut all sports down as far as im concerned aside from golf.
Fuck golf, that’s for the bourgeois schools
My underfunded public high school in Milwaukee had a golf team lol
Lol I went to a definitely not wealthy school but there was still a golf team. I wouldn't call it bourgeois.
Yep smaller town public school system here, golf is a thing.
what about mini golf?
The proletarian version of golf
Bud you took the ACT this year.
Best of luck on over throwing the government and installing communism as the 1 billionth upset teenager in America
Golf still sucks. Waste of land. Should build houses.
Bold of you to assume revolution would begin in the US