Q: About G923 compatibility... have I made a grave mistake?

Question/Help

I'm new to iRacing and due to shipping issues with my G29 wheel & pedals getting lost in transit last week, I saw that the G923 has been announced and will be shipping at earliest in late in August. Since the earliest that it could be replaced is in about another 10 days, I figured I might as well bite the bullet and get A 923 from Logitech directly as I was paying the already inflated ~ $380 after taxes for the one that was a no-show.

However, on closer examination (caveat emptor!) after cancelling my original order and just placing my G923 (PS4) order tonight and find that the new hotness doesn't have iRacing listed as a compatible wheel set while the G29 does. I assume that is due to it being so new and not necessarily being fully tested and supported by iRacing but I think in principal it should work sufficiently, right? Maybe just with not all the bells and whistles at first - and I'm OK with that. I'm still very much an novice and this will be my first wheel purchase. To this point I've only run AI races and skid pad with an xBox controller for the last week due to the wheel delay as I don't want to ruin my pristine 2.5 safety rating until I get a wheel and do it my own damn self under ideal circumstances.

Am I worrying about nothing?

Posted Aug 7, 2020, 7:57 AM UTC

016
BarbarossaMaximus•

I'm only speculating here, but looking purely at the specs of the wheel, it appears to be a G29 with whatever tweaks are needed to make it compatible with the PS5. The only new feature is this programmable dual clutch thing so that's the only bit I'd think may not work with iRacing, but that's not an issue, just don't use it! For some reason, each new Playstation console requires Logitech to make a "new" wheel in order for it to be fully compatible. I don't know if this is to do with firmware, or some deliberate game being played between Logitech and Sony to convince GT fans to buy a new wheel with each console generation. Possible a mix of both.

I'd be surprised if this affected its compatibility with PC games though. Every Logitech wheel in the G series so far works perfectly with iRacing so I can't see why the G923 would be any different expecially when it appears to be quite literally the G29 with some different colours and this programmable dual clutch thing.

I reckon you'll be fine.

4
GeenMachineOP•

Regarding the "new for each generation" thing - one thing I do know about the PS4 is that it's supposed to be two systems in one - there is a low-level controller that is seperate from the processing / graphics engine for the actual gameplay engine. That's how they worked in things like low power mode downloads, and system updates apparently. I saw an interesting conference video where they were able to reverse-engineer a way to control that module to allow them to boot into Linux on the PS4 (At least until it got patched by Sony). This separation of low and high level functions may explain why each one needs to be refreshed.

​

Or Sony could be just an evil, giant corporation that wants to get the licensing fees on your hardware a second time... but they wouldn't do anything evil like that, would they? /s

1
BarbarossaMaximus•

That's really interesting, love learning little tidbits like that!

Sony? Be a money grubbing massive multinational corporation? Surely not!

1†
GeenMachineOP•
2
BarbarossaMaximus•

Cheers man! Something to distract me from work, just what I wanted hah.

1
Jaguars03•

The wheel should work as it’s basically the G29, however Iracing doesn’t currently support the new Trueforce ffb system. Apparently they plan to add this in September.

2
GeenMachineOP•

Excellent, thank you for your reply - I wasn't sure where to begin to look for where they would announce future patching (Seeing how it looks like a patch was just recently applied for the season / calendar quarter?).

2
Rampantlion513Audi RS3 LMS TCR•

Technically recently, yeah. But there is a patch every 13 weeks normally (14 weeks this season), and we are already on week 9 I think? So 5 more weeks and it should be in.

Also, that means new LMP2s (probably) in 5 weeks...holy shit.

0
djfil007•

Trueforce is actually already in the app.ini.

1
sdw3489Mod•

IRacing is never listed on compatible games lists.

Pretty much anything that plugs in and works on a pc will work with IRacing.

You will be fine

2
GeenMachineOP•

Oddly enough on the G29, it is and was what led to my initial concern. The configuration seemed fairly robust in iRacing but still wanted to make sure I wasn't throwing money away.

1
[deleted]•

[deleted]

1
hutchy81•

From reading it looks like iRacing isn't currently compatible with trueforce which is essentially a rumble feature, the wheel should work as normal.

I would also recommend joining some practice sessions with other players in the meantime, if you can make a race distance without crashing you could attempt to do some races. Your SR won't be affected in practice, and you could make it out of rookies by the time your wheel arrives

1†
GeenMachineOP•

I'm reluctant to go against real people with the gamepad (And this may be me not calibrating it properly even though I selected the checkbox for it being a gamepad) but the slightest (Maybe 20 degrees off center) tough and it translates to well over a full turn of the wheel. I've tried both calibrating the wheel and manually attempting to adjust the two sliders for sensitivity but can't seem to make enough of a difference for it to not be wildly uncontrollable).

I'm Ok with starting in the crash test leagues with the rest of the paint-chip eaters until I earn my way out of those standings. I am a patient person - this seems to be a method for success in early races anyway to stay alive and avoid the first few turn slaughter in the matches.

3
BillWiskinsAudi RS3 LMS TCR•

This is the correct approach.

1
[deleted]•

[deleted]

1
HighRoLa_•

TrueForce is an added vibration to normal FFB. TrueForce needs to be supported by the game, but if its not, FFB and the wheel will still work just fine.

1
GeenMachineOP•

Good news, thanks!

2