Better Policing
Yesterday I watched a guy steal from the Circle K at Columbia station, then when he noticed I saw him, follow and threaten to assault me in broad daylight. One block from the police station.
This area is getting worse with COVID. What is the NWPD doing to address it? I have yet to ever see a single beat cop in this area to protect and serve the residents amidst its challenges. Is there a reason?
The area of trouble between Columbia and New West station is small to cover and needs a lot of help lately, so why doesn’t it get more attention?
Edit: I don’t know what I expect to come of this, I just needed to vent. It’s frustrating to watch this area do U turn as of recent. Our institutions are failing everyone on all sides of this.
Posted Aug 25, 2020, 2:48 AM UTC · edited
People need to realize that the police have arrested a lot of these people 20-30 times.
It's our justice system. Blame the people who advocate for lesser sentences because someone is a meth user.
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Yeah.
Thing is, though, that's what the emerging studies are all pointing-to as a first step on the road to stable recovery: safe injection sites.
The issue, says my counsellor friend, is that the next steps don't get taken, as we have no way to safely remove the user from the environment that causes this recidivism . We stop there because our setup is as broken as Obama's healthcare reform when it couldn't get to Phase 0.2 .
So if you listen to the people who've studied this for decades, it's not the provision of drugs nor the light sentences that's allowing this cycle to perpetuate, but something right after it. And if our goal is healthy, productive tax-payers, the answer isn't stricter punishment as it provokes more costly problems, but something else. (And I'll admit, I don't care for the people themselves. I just want them on the other end of the burden<->provider spectrum than they are now.)
If you dive into the science behind the hokum-sounding recommendations, it's actually fascinating and surprising.
Safe injection sites would incentivize more lowlifes to come to New West. I am 100% opposed to one in our city.
I agree, to some extent. I am all for safe injection sites as long as they are followed up with some treatment plans. If you just have the sites with no “recovery” plan for after then you are just enabling. There has to be more options for them to get well, better structure and something that can give them hope for a better life.
I mean, factually and scientifically that is what works. Look at the Dutch model, or better yet the Portugese model. If you want to see how chucking people in jail looks, just go south of the border. It hardens criminals. Those guys are the dummies.
People like to quote the Portuguese model but don’t seem to know what the hell they did.
They AGGRESSIVELY targeted addicts and forced them into treatment. Also, drug possession is not legal in Portugal and penalties including banning people from specific parts of town were put in place.
It has absolutely been a success but it’s not the and fuzzy thing people seem to believe it is.
Lastly, the culture surrounding drugs in a nation like Portugal is completely different from here.
I'm actually quite familiar with dissuasion. I think that cultural excuse is used quite a bit. I think it's well worth a trial run.
Activists read a headline without reading the guidelines of the strategy.
It is a crime to openly do meth in Portugal and Netherlands.
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The Dutch model controls the supply and forces people into programs if they want use to that supply.
It's not legal to openly do meth on the streets there like it is here. Our lax policy is not well thought out
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Then they shouldn't have closed Riverview. This is a problem solved over generations. If you want to pay more money for these people to be jailed instead of treated to return as paying tax payers then be my guest. Also America is a wasteland.
That’s a lot of ignorance and narcissism wrapped up in very few words.
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