MUST BANS or we LOSE
Shen Zilean and Sion for good measure
Plz for the love of all that is holy.
Posted Aug 27, 2020, 11:19 PM UTC
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please GOD ban akali or i will get ptsd
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I think if we're on Blue side we should ban Ashe. It'll force them to ban Cait and maybe even Kalista because of how important a pushing botlane is right now. This means Zven can get Senna while pushing DL to something like Ezreal.
I think if we're going to throw bans at Bjergsen, it should be Akali or Irelia. These are both Nisqy champions as well though and so I think we can pick them away, but no way should Bjergsen get them.
For LB, I think Nisqy can just counterpick the Morgana and same for Veigar into Azir.
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It wont force them to ban Cait unless the team actually took the time to learn it and be willing to play it.
I feel like it'll be the same Cait ban, forcing DL to play Ashe or ban it altogether which will give us the Senna, EZ, Kalista etc
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Can you explain the Sion ban? Seems random and not worth a ban let alone first round ban
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Flash backs of last year
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Sion ban is only really needed against Impact, IMHO. C9 has never beaten TL with Impact on the champion. We've lost as many games to Impact on Sion as we've lost to every other team combined.
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C9 BLUE SIDE Thought Process: Ban Shen/GP to incentivize TSM to play towards a carry top so we can focus on shitting on their bot lane. Ashe ban should make Caitlyn Prio high AF.
BANS: Cloud 9 - 1) Shen 2) GP 3) Ashe
BANS: TSM - 1) Sett 2) Olaf 3) Cait/Galio
BLUE SIDE PICKS: either 1) Cait 2) Lee Sin 3) TF/Galio (Grab Bard/Thresh/Braum + Ornn/Morde on 4/5)
OR IF CAIT BANNED: 1) Renekton 2) Senna 3) Tahm (Grab Gragas/Elise + Rumble/Galio/TF/Lucian 4/5)
RED SIDE PICKS: 1) Renekton 2) Graves 3) Ezreal/Jhin (DL can't play senna) (They will get counterpick mid Lucian/Synd/Zilean/Azir + Bard/Thresh/Braum)
OR IF CAIT BANNED: 1) Ezreal (DL can't play senna) 2) Yuumi/Graves 3) Mord/Ornn (They will get counterpick mid Lucian/Synd/Zilean/Azir + SUP/JUNG PICK Nidalee/Lilia or Bard/Thresh/Braum)
I'll do C9 Redside when I get home from work :)
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I don't even think we really need to ban shen win. You just can't take bad early fights in the jungle
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Nisqy is fine to play into Zilean. I do not think it's worth banning if that is the case unless the team really can't handle it.
In an interview he said he does not care about playing into it because it's a free lane to be able to roam and do what he wants. He said the only reason they would ban it would be if the team doesn't want to play into it later
I think if they focus bans at Bjerg they should be assassins that he can play like LeBlanc and Akali.
The dive made a good point that Spica has only really looked good on like 2 champs this split and so it might be easy to ban out his pool and try the cost Blaber dominate him in the jungle.
I think my ban would be Akali, LeBlanc, and then either a jungler (sett probably), Ashe (DL only played it last series and allows the botlane to track the jungler easy with hawkshot and have utility with Ults and slows later in teamfights even if put behind in lane) or Irelia/Ori (Orianna if they dear Blaber playing into it, and Irelia if they fear it flexed between top and mid).
I didn't mention Shen because I think Licorice should pick it until they play an effective counterpick. He can use to to help not get ahead if that is our win condition.
didn’t C9 lose to Bjergs Zilean during the spring split?
The thing with Zillian is this. Bjerg won’t pick it just because it’s open. It need to be in the right comp and into the right time of team comp. as long as C9 doesn’t draft into a super low dive low aoe team comp zillian wont happen. So unless C9 plan on pretty much running zoey mid with a tank top an early game jungler [lee sin or olaf] and a low aoe bot lane you probably won’t see a Zillian.
He doesn’t treat Zillian like Syndra or his LeBlanc he used it only when certain conditions are meet and if you look back TSM has lost pretty much every game where Bjergson has forced it into the game regardless of comp.
As for Akali and Irelia it’s not just that bjergson is good on them its also that far and away Spica best, most stable and comfortable champion is Sejuani who got buffed and works great with them.
well we lost to zilean today which I thought should’ve been banned out because I saw it coming from a mile away after phase 1 of pick and bans
Yup but Blaber, Nisqy, and Licorice did not play very well. Even Kobbe and Bio won lane with Xayah Rakan.
Dardoch played an incredible J4 that game as well. Iirc he cheese ganked top at level 2 which really hurt licorice in the game.
I guess those played a factor into our loss but iirc from what I watched it was the Bjerg ults that kept stopping us from killing dardoch which led into us losing almost all late game fights. dardoch kept jumping into us without any worry because he knew bjerg would ult him once he was near death
They gave BB sett when he was OP. Sett was the one who set up the teams engages, j4 locked people into his ultimate for easy bombs. Nisqy seemed comfortable picking his Zoe into it.
My worry is, much like shen being a counter pick, Zoltan could stump c9 plays with his ult. Idk why the boys were so good and couldn’t time shen ult, but Maybe FQ Is just that good
True, the team might not wish to face it but at the same time If they just draft solid engage they can just aim to kill Bjerg first since the rest of his team has not been doing very much damage.
When we lost to them (with Zilean) Kobbe was 6/1 on Xayah and dealt out serious damage in teamfights. If DL is not in a high damage champ or not playing well I'm not sure they should fear the choronocuck.
He also said giving Bjerg Zilean in Game 5 of the series was suicide by GGS. I think if its 2-2 and TSM hasn't played Zilean they will ban it. Might even ban it when it's match point for C9
100% agree with that.
I think seeing those champions is a mental boom for some of us.