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HP Envy x360 13z-ay000 and HP Rechargeable MPP 2.0 Pen - Pressure sensitivity supported?

I believe this model supports pressure sensitivity when used with an active pen, I could swear I'd read this prior to purchasing. Now that it has arrived with said pen I'm not sure it does. Does anyone have same model and know the answer? HP support says 'yes' but I have yet to find a test app and Corel Painter does not appear to be seeing it OR its not very sensitive and I"m used to my HUION 1060 PLUS. Anyone know of test applications for this feature? Thanks!

Posted Sep 6, 2020, 5:24 AM UTC

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digitizerstylus•

No mention of a pen in the product page's accessories, manual, or parts list. It looks like it doesn't support a pen. If you get the chance, see if it works with an MPP pen (Surface Pen) but from the documentation it seems like it doesn't.

The product page does have pictures of the HP MPP 2.0 pen next to the device, so maybe you can sue them for false advertising?

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rna_errorsOP•

I can tell you that it comes with a pen if you check the product page, its there. I upgraded to the more expensive pen at a discount. But yes, it does come with and is advertised with a pen and it works fine for handwriting, navigation, etc. My questions revolve around pressure sensitivity and testing for that feature support. Thanks though

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U_slash_NewUsername•

As an owner of a spectre 15t-eb000" eb000 with the included HP non-tilt battery pen. The upgrade to the MPP2.0 tilt pen is worth it.

Acutavy is better and tilt. Pressure is same for both (cant remebr levels of pressure but it's not really something noticeable in my expeicance) Though im not sure about the activation pressure of the MPP2.0. As I know my current battery pen has a large activation pressure making it tricky to work with.

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rna_errorsOP•

OK yeah i went with the rechargeable mpp 2.0 pen and i really like it but have yet to determine if it is truly pressure sensitive. I think it was 1024 levels (whereas my tablet and pen are ~4000) but I am not sure I'm really seeing that. Any ideas for apps to test this with?

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U_slash_NewUsername•

Photoshop brush adjustments are my go-to, but you may have to install some extra drivers to get it to work.

But the windows whiteboard has presure sensitive brushes enabled by default.

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U_slash_NewUsername•

I wouldnt recommend the surface pen for the spectre line as HP transmit their tilt (and maybe other data) via Bluetooth - which goes against the norm meaning a lot of standard MPP2.0 compatible pens won't work to their full potential on the spectre line.

For instance the tilt does not work on the bamboo ink and spectre. (Which sucks!).

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rna_errorsOP•

HP Rechargeable MPP 2.0 Tilt does not use bluetooth.

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U_slash_NewUsername•

Okay, either way I'm reliably informed that devices such as the wacom aes & windows mpp the tilt function will not work with spectre and some HP products according to wacom themselves. However, if you purchase one and it works I am happy to be proven wrong.

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rna_errorsOP•

Answering my own question with Clip Studio Paint....does the combination of the HP Envy x360 (13z-ay000 touch) and the HP Rechargeable Tilt MPP 2.0 stylus offer pressure sensitivity support???? The answer is a resounding YES! Not sure wtf is up with Corel Painter yet but I'm sure to get it sorted now that I know I'm not imagining the support being present in the hardware.

Thank you for your comments, feel free to continue ladies and gentlemen.

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Jacksrabbit•

Thanks for coming back once you answered the question!

Mind if I ask you about your experience with the pen and the whole device input? I've read that it has quite some lag. Do you like taking notes and drawing with the envy x360 in general?

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rna_errorsOP•

Thanks. I can't speak to the Intel equipped models but the Ryzen 7 4700 with 16GB RAM equipped model I purchased for my wife and I (white takes FOREVER to get btw) does not experience any (or very little) input lag using the MPP. I'll add that I've had mine for 3 weeks and only charged the pen when it arrived. The only gripes I have are: adjusting to double-tapping to click takes time and since I try to use the pen alot you'd think I'd be better at it AND handwriting in Windows 10 is a very mixed bag. I've made one or two adjustments but haven't gone back to it TBH. I need to as its usefulness would seem to be a no-brainer but been too busy. As it stands, even adjusted to be slower it sometimes processes what I've written too rapidly gobbling up halves of words and other frustrating such actions as that.

I am not a visual artist (heck I'm hardly a musical or literary one but I do give it some effort albeit having started at 42 my ability is zilch relative to friends who started at age 5 or 6) but since having this I've been using some paint software for fun. it is actually pretty cool to pass the time. Little to no lag in Corel Painter or CLIP FWIW. Hope that helps.

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noou•

Hi, very similar situation as mine: I also bought a Ryzen 4000 based Envy x360 for my wife and it's taking ages to arrive. From what I read around, I'm a bit scared that the HP tilt pen MPP 2.0 will produce wobbly lines and even that tilt won't be recognized. Can you comment on that? Thanks in advance

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