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side2

Teach me how to make excuses

I have been trying to make my life more peaceful by means of using excuses when the straightforward approach would not cause a solution and only pisses people off.

Please teach me how to make valid excuses without people catching on. I have been able to slightly lately but they generally look at me and size me up to see if I am lying to them. One guy said, "are you serious or do you just not want to help me?" I honestly really didn't want to help him as I had my own project so I told him, "I'm really not sure how that works. Sorry buddy."

I'm putting this in r/seduction because I feel this is the best place to develop social skills even if it isn't a seduction technique.

Posted Jul 14, 2011, 5:46 PM UTC

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ThrowawayPUAModerator•

One guy said, "are you serious or do you just not want to help me?"

What difference would it make?

I used to work for a manager who was a real asshole. He used to go around singing a little ditty to the tune of "if you're happy and you know it." The lyrics were one phrase, repeated over and over, "I'd really like to help you but I won't." What an asshole.

At the next site (same company) I worked for a boss who liked to make us practice saying no, directly to his face, every morning. We actually took a seminar in how to control customers in a sales situation. One of the lessons is the power of just saying no, and nothing else. The customer says, "can I get this computer for $500 less?" and you say no and nothing else, in a flat, nonconfrontational tone. No prevarications, no explanations. You just stand there and say nothing, putting the conversational burden back on the other guy. Stare at each other for minutes, if necessary. Whoever says something first, loses.

You don't owe people explanations. Say no and own it. You don't need excuses, you just need to man up and flatly refuse. If you make excuses, people know it, and try to break you.

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side2OP•

I understand your point of view. However I am generally a person who answers straightforward and it causes a lot of problems. In fact sometimes it would get me fired.

I am just looking for better ways of doing it to make conversations and situations much more smooth. For instance if I don't care if I am right or not I would like to find ways of getting out of it and moving onto a new topic. I'm not sure if I am describing this well enough.

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Pires007•

Why not a simple, "I'm very busy right now with abc."

And just have a plausible ABC in mind.

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side2OP•

That would be making an excuse... hense why I'm asking how to think of a plausible one. That is the problem.

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kdmo•

Just think of something you rather be doing with your time and say that. In your OP you said:

I honestly really didn't want to help him as I had my own project

couldn't you have just told him you were busy with your own project?

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worthwhilethrowaway•

I honestly really didn't want to help him as I had my own project so I told him

why not just tell him that? Don't work on making up excuses, just work on being more comfortable with saying no and sticking by that.

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side2OP•

I was giving an example.

Other things would be like when my exgf asks me to fix her phone yet she doesn't even walk to go to coffee with me to see what's going on. I wanted to say fuck you, or no your not my gf anymore, or something similar. But coming up with an excuse to excuse myself off the phone without hanging up or saying no to her request is difficult for me. Cutting someone off midsentence by hanging up or just straight up saying no doesn't smoothly do the job.

I need to find ways to smoothly get out of things without bluntly saying no, or listening to someone ramble on about nonsense in which I don't want to argue about.

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worthwhilethrowaway•

when my exgf asks me to fix her phone yet she doesn't even walk to go to coffee with me to see what's going on. I wanted to say fuck you, or no your not my gf anymore, or something similar.

that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Maybe not the "fuck you" part, but tell her, "i'm no longer dating you, i have other women to take care of now."

I need to find ways to smoothly get out of things without bluntly saying no, or listening to someone ramble on about nonsense in which I don't want to argue about.

there is no other way... if you give a reason why you can't they'll give a reason why you should. you're leaving openings for them to convince you to do things for you.

bottom line, teach yourself how to say no. theres a negative connotation of the word "excuses" for a reason. so stop making excuses, and just learn how to say no.

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side2OP•

I generally get people asking "why not" when I say no. It seems like I end up with the same problem.

Also I know that many people don't just straight up say no or whatever because it isn't tactful and can cause some huge issues when just avoiding the situation seems best.

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worthwhilethrowaway•

avoiding the situation seems best.

i've always found avoiding the situation to cause more problems than anything else

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