How does Barney Stinson feel about Cobra Kai?
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 8:20 PM UTC
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Where it all began! Now let’s see the Barney Stinson cameo on Cobra Kai that “The Karate Kid” Johnny Lawrence owes him!
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It's.. legend......wait for it....dary!
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Exactly! “I have nothing but the utmost respect for you...skanks” ~ Barney Stinson
See now that’s more like it .... I’m getting “purple dinosaur” replies here. C’mon!
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I guess I had lot going on when the show was actually on the air (seems like Hillary Clinton spoiled the ending for me), I'd see episodes here and there, but I'm not even sure if binge-watching was invented yet. I finally sat down and watched 'em all a few years ago, he died not to long after (Google news feed told me first thing- since it's knows everything about you and what you're doing at all times)..that Kinda just settled it, but they were still talking about a revival, even up to then. I can tell second-hand that it influenced all my favorite shows. They pretty much invented the idea that anything can happen- your favorite character can die out of nowhere.. all bets are off etc. I don't know, I'm pretty sure Carmela tried to sabotage her kid going to college too, so that's something... The Wire was great, but it's so cynical I don't think I wanna rewatch it anytime soon..or maybe I just don't want Omar to get shot by some random kid again.. looking forward to Fargo season 4 and that's about it. Covid killed tv, right when we needed it most...
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Yeah Sopranos era there really wasn’t any Binge Watching beyond syndication but I did actually own every available season of my favorite shows back then and I have nightmares of how stressful it was swapping out DVD’s after about 4 episodes. So I’m sure some people started or had been binge watching back then. It’s crazy how quickly the media tech advanced back then. It’s like we had VHS forever and then we went through every imaginable form of discs paying way too much for new formats each time within roughly a 5 year period and then it was all digital no turning back. But that’s actually how I started watching tv and preferring it in more of a “binge” format. (Even though I really miss what that was like back when “Apointment viewing” was still a thing.) Actually now that I’m trying to remember how the hell I started amassing season of tv series it was because I was moving and relocating a lot for work then and so I started just relying on DVDs and series box sets because of how seriously ridiculously long it took to get cable installed each time. But there was always so much available to buy I have to think there were a lot of binge sorta viewers like that, but just because they preferred it probably not because of traveling for work, at the same time or before me.
I actually didn’t even think about how badly Sopranos must’ve been ruined for everyone because it really was so heavily covered and the ending blasted throughout media almost immediately after it aired. (Thats just cruel!) I don’t know what would’ve been better though because it really was so awful to watch it when it aired. The anticipation was insane! For me I don’t think I could do it justice beyond describing it as a major bitch slap.. maybe a gut punch. But it stung. I was so excited to learn they had a film concept planned but it just kept on never coming, never being genuinely discussed. It drove me crazy.. clearly still does 😂. But no matter what it’s a really great show even how it ended it was definitely worth the watch and all the rewatches later. I’ve actually never come across the Carmela sabotaging theory but yeah she would probably did and hopefully we’ll get to dive deeper into that angle of the storyline someday. Carmela was such a well developed character who imo doesn’t get enough credit either. I’m actually due for another Sopranos rewatch myself. I’m thinking that’s next up now. (I’m trying to stay in TWW zone until after the new episode airs but I may take a Sopranos break now.)
As far as the Wire.... 1. Omar alone is the soundest reasoning I have ever heard! Can’t argue with this; But 2. It’s one really well written series (plus the Organic nature behind everything from the creation to the casting really makes this show stand out for me.) and its definitely one of those shows that you see more and more of its complexity on how and why they did what with each rewatch. But it is really cynical and dark too. I couldn’t blame anyone for not wanting to watch it again but I do always hope that any tv lover gives it the first run. (Which doesn’t always happen) cause it’s one that’s truly always deserved it’s GOAT status. I remember so many people refusing to watch it purely because of the letterboxing and that just drove me out of my mind. How can anyone stand not knowing Omar’s coming?!?! or really who the hell Omar is? But only because of letterboxing and you have zero idea about whose in it what it’s about and so on that really drove me mad. The Wire and not watching it because of production format was basically the “No sex, Politics, or Religion” rule in my family for holiday dinner tables. Once this came up I’d usually end up throwing something at a sibling.... Jk ... Kinda. 😂
I am dying for Fargo season 4. Fargo’s one show I almost refused to watch purely because I really hadn’t liked much of Billy Bob Thornton’s work (but he’s also done much more Film than TV and I’m not a big film watcher anymore. I basically swapped to TV and hardly ever went back.) and I’m forever grateful my sister talked me off that hill I was willing to die on cause he is nothing less than exceptional in Fargo and the series is all around genius. But I can’t lie I’m really hoping season 4 adds to both season 3 in general hopefully in a way the first two really take each other to another level and also the entire series. I can’t even begin to imagine what they’re coming up with but how Fargo played out is actually what got me to stick with some of the more complex and confusing slow burns like the leftovers (which really is amazing in full.) I really can’t wait for Fargo though. It one I’m so grateful I watched but I also wish I waited and binged the series in full. That’s a conflicting one for me but only because it’s a damn masterpiece.
I really think you’ll like most if not all of the series I listed out. Sometimes it’s tough because some people really don’t like a complex series or a slow burning one but you sound like someone who appreciates a well developed plot and a dynamic cast to put it together so I doubt you’ll be disappointed with any of them.
And I couldn’t possibly agree more about Covid either. It’s like every time we even get close to having as much content that’s equally as compelling and consistent available and running all at once since the 07 strike something always happens no matter what that pushes the industry back and so we get maybe 1 or 2 great series running and dropping at the same time. I think a big factor there too is that entertainment is a solid industry that can take the hits (not that this ones okay or easy) but it’s always profitable and most likely always will be. So downtime on the industry isn’t as much of a killer to the industry as it is to every other one that exists. This could of course be the other way around though and if that was the case we probably have endless amounts of junk quality film and tv releasing every hour that any quality would be rare at this point. Given all of that it’s tough to get aggravated that sometimes we suffer long hiatuses or delays that we probably wouldn’t if it wasn’t such a solidly profitable industry. (I don’t mean in anyway to insinuate they should be writing and shooting right now in Hollywood during Covid. I more mean this has effected us needlessly in the past. More as added delays after things like strikes are long resolved. Right now it’s definitely a necessary precaution. Health over entertainment always.)
The wire just made me think of this one because of casting but You know what shows surprisingly AMAZING.... Person of Interest. I caught it later which surprised me considering you have Nolan, Abrams, Thé, and Djawadi all behind it. I really didn’t think I’d even like it but it built up to one really great series and there was so much criticism and petitions about it ending and the way the network delayed airing the ending that I thought for sure the fans wouldn’t get any justice and they did one hell of a job ending it too. If you haven’t watched it it’s worth a shot and gets great right about season 3. Not at all a basis I thought I’d enjoy but it’s a really great watch and for network TV too.
Yeah sadly I could talk tv all ... Day ...Week ... year.. yeah I could just go on.
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I'm kinda glad I knew Sopranos was just gonna blank out, I might have the thrown the tv set out the nearest window otherwise..I've heard the stories of the thousands of people calling their cable services during the original airing. I didn't think I'd like Fargo either, really didn't get the movie (I always think or want to like coen brothers movies, but I usually don't ((o brother where art though is the exception))) I watched the first three episodes just 'cause it was the only thing on, but got hooked on it by episode 4 or 5. Kinda wish they'd circle back to season one, but I trust them regardless. Three was the weakest but still pretty good.. and I'm mystified by the aliens in season 2, it seemed out of place- but there really was a rash of UFO sitings in the area and time period! If they can pull off space aliens in Fargo, then they can pull off anything.. half expected it to tie into American Horror story. Oh well, Chris Rock's gonna kill it..the online critic hate-machine clickbaiters is talking trash, but I'm not falling for it. I think they already destroyed True Detective and season 1 and 3 were awesome (2 would have made a decent 2 hour movie, I think.)
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Wow it’s like we’re the same person as far as film and movies. I wasn’t a huge Fargo the film fan but my siblings loved all things Coen brothers. (Lucky for me or I really wouldn’t have ever watched Fargo the series). I couldn’t agree more about Chris Rock, I’ve never liked Billy Bobs type casting which is why I was certain I’d hate Fargo but he was not the Billy Bob we’d all seen in that series so I’m sure the audience will be surprised and pleased with Chris Rocks performance. Although I thought season 3 was really weak myself. I’m hoping they pull context out of it with season 4’s airing. I was so shocked by the first 2 seasons that I’d be shocked if the second 2 end up duds although I wouldn’t say season 3 was awful or anything. I still don’t get the aliens either but it didn’t really take anything away from the series for me. I haven’t watched season 3 of true detective yet, season 2 Kinda three me for a loop so when I can I try to stack as many seasons as possible. I was hoping to do that with True Detective but it’s taken so long for each season to drop that I might give in and watch season 3 soon. The Sopranos ending was disappointing even nerve wracking cause it just didn’t seem real. I remember us all thinking along the lines of the GoT fans train of thought that he’d be dropping a new season or episode as a surprise like we couldn’t believe that ending. It’s good too I mean how the finale war or plays out and everything it’s great but the rack of Tony and the families resolution was devastating. I really hope we find out what the truth was even if that was the ending they’d wanted at that 2 year earlier mark and we all just lost context or whatever but it’d be nice to hear the truth behind how it came to be and know it’s the truth ... cause that radio show interview really leaves you questioning things. But I’m still glad I watched it and although I love BingeWatching I miss appointment viewing like that and everyone watching the same thing too. It was a fun time and the only show thats seem to come close to that effect since digital has been GoT. But I did like having both options with GoT where it was the show everyone was talking about, everyone rushed to be in-front of HBO to watch it on weekends, and we could binge it whenever (although talk about a disappointment. That ending was worse than terrible!) I’m kinda excited to hear True Detective 3 is really worth the watch. I can’t wait to check it out now.
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Yeah, I think True Detective and Fargo are in the same boat- first seasons were so good that everyone trashes them for not being exactly the same( true detective 2 did suck, though- that weird spoken-word theme made me cringe if I couldn't get to the remote in time to fast forward or mute) I missed out on GOT, or at least saving it for a rainy day or month, maybe. Usually go Showtime over HBO ( I'm boycotting them forever if they don't give mr.Donovan a proper finale; already had to just give up on Shameless and it was my favorite show, ever, for a long time-i don't know if they hired new writers or what, but I'm tired of being disappointed) I like appointment viewing to, I always watch Better call Saul and Walking Dead with my Mom and stepdad- somewhere along the line, WD evolved into a soulless money-machine- but unlike Shameless, I enjoy complaining about and belittling it, something to do I guess.. oh well, that's my television critique of the day.. did you see the Reddit front page?, cop shot some lady while trying to kill her dog, horrible stuff..
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Is r/all set to 'top post' the front page? Maybe I'm just pretending to know what I'm talking about. I usually go 'new', but never r/all- unless for some reason I need to be reminded that most of the world's population are fiends who are really, really into anime. Anyway it was a clip from 'Inside Edition', can't remember the name of the sub-reddit. Rookie cops should get rubber bullets, I'm sure Andy Griffith would approve.. Anyway Shameless WAS great, they got to where they were just throwing stuff at the wall to see what would stick. It got kinda old watching them introduce new characters and plotlines, only to abandon them to try something else. Something struck me wrong about Carl's new girlfriend getting killed unceremoniously off-screen and him acting like it was no big deal. I made it a few more episodes after that, last one I followed was the 'hobo Olympics' (ironically I'm pretty sure that's based on my hometown's "redneck games", a pretty crappy thing to be known for..) Anyway Debbie turned out just awful, Lip's whiny and annoying, and Frank ran out of interesting thing to do. I skipped the last half of the season, but watched the finale with Fiona leaving.. as good a stopping point as any. I'm glad so many of my favorite characters are doing so much better than all their real-life counterparts, (I've known a lot of 'Gallaghers' over the years) but it's just so damn boring.
(Edit: I'm jealous you get to watch Better Call Saul, for the first time, I'm currently researching safe and efficient ways to induce amnesia so I can do the same..)
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Oh man it sounds it. I am right before Fionas final season. John Wells has a habit of introducing new characters while reworking the main theme and storyline. Usually it’s just one season and then he actually gets over the hump. Is your home town in Illinois? Wells pulls in Chicago whenever he can. But he also did this same thing with TWW season 5 because TWW is unique in that although they had a writers table Aaron Sorkin personally wrote every single screenplay (except 1) for the first 4 seasons. Then there was this major battle (if I got into it it would give away spoilers) and Aaron and Tommy exited. What’s funny is 4 ended on a cliffhanger so Wells calls up Aaron and asks how it ended and Aaron says “oh I don’t know I didn’t write it yet.” It’s pretty hilarious if you’d ever watched it. But Wells did this with season 5 and TWW fans are hardcore so they didn’t let up when this happened but he definitely redeemed himself and not only did we get some of the best episodes of the series in season 5 he also gave us a really great angle in 6 & 7. The funniest part is Wells, Sorkin, and Schlamme are all good friends and Aaron wasn’t being a jerk he was being genuine he hasn’t written it yet so he didn’t know how he’d end the cliffhanger.
I’m stacking the rest of shameless for as long as I can hoping that Wells redeems himself one later seasons. He’s actually even discussed this adding new throw away characters to push the plot line across when it gets disrupted so I’m gonna try it once it’s over or we have a few more seasons under the belt. Because honestly look at ER: Grey’s just celebrated passing the ER milestone but Greys should’ve been strangled and put out of its misery around season 10-11. It was at its best maybe circa season 6ish yet it’s still airing terribly. Wells had to transition the ER cast countless times and although there’s a few storylines that jumped the shark he still did a great job with it all the way around. There’s this continuity to it that remained even throughout the cast switch ups. Where as Greys can’t do it. They keep trying but certain moves were just too much and they are doing the fans a disservice by keeping it on the air. The only possible way the show could redeem itself now is if they brought back every un-murdered ensemble cast member that Shonda Crimes took out over the years and gave us a full season with a great storyline to end the show. So for me because I’ve seen this method of his and I’ve seen it work out in two totally different settings, TWW’s ensemble cast has this crazy chemistry like no other on screen and he made a transition there work out perfectly and ER’s concept called for a couple of total overhauls and he really made that work out on screen too not to mention the early cast almost all went on to big things like Clooney, Wiley, and Margulies to name a few. But so far I’m gonna try and have faith in him but I’m gonna hold off for a while to try and avoid any possible disappointment. Because OMG does that endless new characters introduction crap make you crazy!
Speaking of Rubber Bullets do you remember that film (I think it was a Knight Rider movie) where Law enforcement could only use rubber bullets and if you were convicted or a crime you went to some kind of Cryogenic prison. 😂 lately I’ve been thinking about old 80’s and 90’s shows and movies that were obsessed with how different things would be in 2000 and how very wrong they got it.
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The next season of Shameless is supposedly the last. I remember reading somewhere that when they first started developing the American version it was gonna be set in the south, but they wanted it to be more accessible, less of a cliche'. (I'm in Georgia, our unofficial state motto is " ...at least we're not Alabama) I skipped Grey's anatomy and ER, might have given it a chance if I knew it was the same creater as Shameless, though..... Kinda sounds like Demolition man, (Sylvester Stallone, Wesley Snipes and Sandra Bullock) but I can't remember what bullets they used.
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Oh might’ve been demolition man. I was super young when I watched it though. You’ll probably like ER if you enjoy a good drama and John Wells but the early years seem a little rough to get through because of the cinematography. The show was great though especially in comparison to Greys. Greys was actually pretty good but once it jumped the shark it never came back. Honestly it’s sopranos-esque in that there’s no holds barred as far as the producer Murdering your fan favs. She did it well in the early years too.
I feel like I keep hearing it’s shameless last season and it never is. But if they’re finally announcing it formally I wouldn’t be shocked with Fiona’s character gone. They set it up too much with her as a lead protagonist I can’t see them switching to an entire ensemble protagonist series well. Even though we follow all of the Gallagher’s. I do love Shameless though.
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Wow. Just finished Boardwalk Empire. Feel slightly traumatized, even if I did have to Google 'finale explained' to get it. It kinda had the opposite effect of the Soprano's (which I initially put on as 'background noise' after getting a small collection of books through the mail) I'm not sure I really gave it the attention it deserved until about halfway into season 4, but I don't think even blinked once one season 5 (kid Nucky was great, took a while to get used to 20 something year old Nuck with the big, fake Steve Buscemi teeth..) Pretty powerful stuff, even if it did have a slow start..oh well, if for some reason you wanna feel as weird and sad as I do right now, I'm recommending Devil All The Time on Netflix. I could use a break from tv dramas, but of course the first 2 episodes of Fargo 4 are on the DVR...
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Yeah I’m glad you stuck with BE! I’ll have to check out Devil all the time! Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve been so disappointed with new shows lately that I keep sticking to rebinges. It’s like I’ll find a great one and get sucked in! Then I’ll take a leap and try another and it sucks, I’ll usually run through say 4 that aren’t worth watching all the way through (and I’m a committer so I’ll usually stick with a show even when it’s bad.. that’s how awful these shows have been.) and then I’ll give up and hope back into a rebinge. Now I’m excited cause I haven’t heard about this one yet! I’m doing the same with Fargo 4 AND ITS KILLING ME!! but I know it’ll be worth it.
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It's a movie (know you said you prefer tv) buts it's good, little disturbing, though. Since you had me googling Alan Sorkin I'm getting a lot of reviews for 'the Chicago 7', I think I'm gonna give that one a shot.
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i didn't realize they gave Barney the purple dinosaur a last name.
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They did not. Barney Stinson’s, from “How I met your mother”, Hero is Johnny Lawrence aka William Zabka of newly acclaimed Cobra Kai fame accept He became Barney’s hero in the original The Karate Kid franchise.
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I seriously doubt that series would have ever come to be without the 'how I met your mother' cameo's. Seemed like the offhand remark about 'the real karate kid' inspired the whole revival.
Right? I haven’t watched it yet. But I have a teen son who I always made “watch the originals” of films and shows growing up if they existed and were being rebooted, or if some great old films just existed too of course.
He’s usually way too critical of everything now though but he said Cobra Kai’s worth checking out.
So although I don’t want to watch it purely because I don’t see Barney getting enough credit for helping his Hero rise here, I think I’m gonna check it out.
I really hope they return the favor and we somehow get to see NPH return as Barney for us via a Cobra Kai Cameo.
Yeah, How I met your mother gets a lot of hate online. I think it's just people trying to be trendy. I liked all the characters and it would have me laughing out loud occasionally, most sitcoms, even good ones, are usually only worth a chuckle at best.
Yeah I actually didn’t expect to like HIMYM at all tbh. I’ve never been too big into comedies and I watch a lot of TV. But I think that’s mostly been because of the use of laugh tracks. Once they dropped them I started watching a lot more but dramas are still more my thing.
But I cannot for the life of me understand the Friends hype and HIMYM hate. I hated friends when it originally aired and couldn’t imagine giving it another shot. But if it’s enjoyed that much I can’t see why HIMYM doesn’t have just as many new watchers.
But instead HIMYM gets hate for some reason? I’ll never understand that. I mean it’s a cheesy sitcom which is what it is but It’s still far superior to Friends in the chuckle arena.
Don’t get me wrong I can understand the criticism because tbh even though I love when Robin “goes all Canadian” and ... “Wait for it” ..... various other cast antics, NPH definitely carried that show. If he wasn’t on it then it probably wouldn’t have lasted or made it past the pilot run. Problem is though he did a damn good job carrying them and it made the entire ensembles dynamic great and the show worked.
Not to mention it’s (aka Barney directly) now even spawned what’s apparently a new hit here with Cobra Kai. It may not be that great of a show but in a time when friends is trending yeah I’ll never grasp the massive dislike of HIMYM.
I watched Friends in high school (mainly cause it came on either before or after Seinfeld) It wasn't anything special but it was tolerable.. not anymore, tho. Just the sound of their voices alone makes me dig the remote out from wherever it's hiding under the couch cushions. Ross(the whining)is the worst but I've come to realize that even Chandler never actually says anything funny. There's an online theory that the whole show is just Phoebe's meth-induced fantasy and that's about the only amusing thing about the entire series as far as I'm concerned.