UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:29 PM UTC
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It sucks because the 6000 series cards are probably going to be just as bad. No AIB partners making them until 2021 so we're depending on AMD to make them all. Gonna be rough, especially if the card is good.
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Yep. Either the RDNA2 cards are Ampere-killers (and have massive demand and sell out even quicker), or they're on par with Ampere (and the market is split, so you can't get either card) or they suck (so they're readily available, but who wants a sucky card?). Unless AMD has a massive supply ready on day one, it doesn't end well.
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Or RDNA2 is a great competitor for the 3070 (and lower) and priced aggressively at that range, where a majority of gamers buy. Winning the mid-range crown where the majority of buying happens.
They just need something that is a bit stronger or faster clocked than the XSX or PS5 right now (which both use RDNA2 anyway).
Once the platform matures they can target the less than 5% of 3080 and 3090 market.
Keep in mind that nVidia is using a newly developed and thus low yield 8nm process in partnership with Samsung for 3000 series. Apple's latest range of products are to use 5nm from TSMC, which is where AMD's 7nm chips are also made. For all that we know the 3080 killer could have also a 5nm RDNA2 clocked and loaded with cores a year from now when Apple's run made it possible for TSMC to upgrade more lines (with a more mature method) where AMD chips can run on. Intel also booked 7nm lines (however TSMC said that they prioritize current contracts ie AMD), which by then would be their old lines
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What do you guys think about buying an 5700 xt right now? i heard the last update made it fantastic, but i am not sure if the price will further drop.
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You have to be out your damn mind to think Radeon finally fixed all the problems assoc. with RDNA.
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They fixed hundreds of problems since its Aug 2019 launch, I had problems in 2019 but in 2020 not a single one. I'm still seeing people with corrupted/faulty BIOSes and cards from AIBs and blaming it on drivers. It's no wonder their problems never get resolved, it's out of AMDs hands lol.
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It's a fantastic card, if you buy the right AIB. I recommend getting either the Sapphire Nitro+ or the Red devil cards. Any other one is too close in price and doesn't offer the same quality PCB, cooler, and performance. Once big Navi actually drops the price of 5XXX will plummet. I've had nothing but ups with my Nitro+ and their driver update in February increased my card performance by 10%. FineWine™ technology is no joke.
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Hate that card. (Or more so the shit drivers)
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Is it still as bad? heard many people saying that the card is almost as good as the 2080 after the new drivers. the price looked really juicy, and i dont want to support nvidia anymore.
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And what happens if it’s really good at mining?
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We're quad fukt.
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I mean if you think about it, RDNA 2 could also be a paper launch if the demand is high.
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Not so fast. Paper = no supply. Not excessive demand.
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Got mine a week ago.
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lmaooooo imagine buying NoVideo in 2020
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I love it and I feel happy
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I was memeing... but that's good! I personally think Ampere is a complete dogshit architecture that overpromised and underdelivered just like the Radeon of yore, but if you're fine with the power draw and you're getting good performance then nothing to be unhappy about.
I'm just waiting for NoVideo to shaft early adopters by releasing a 20GB version, a "Ti" or "Super" version, or otherwise fucking over their customer base just like they've done for the last two generations, but shit, that doesn't make your card any worse. It just makes NoVideo a bullshit scummy company.
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It feels like they launched literally the millisecond 3080s were coming out of the factories
Given the timeline presented last year said consumer ampere would be ready into Q4 at the earliest I'm always kinda bemused at people dreaming up some great conspiracy
They shipped the moment they could because they fear RDNA2
Exactly. They tried to preempt what is coming. Get a bunch of people mentally set to purchase a 3080 or 3070, so when they actually do come in stock they pay extra or bypass the Radeon alternative. Sorta smart move when it is your only move.
I understand NVIDIA wants to remain dominant, but I would have delayed Ampere. In the interim, I would relaunch the RTX Titan with less VRAM and call it the RTX 2080 Ti Ultra or the RTX 2080 Ti Super. I would also sell such a card at around $649.
3070 ti is what youre describing
Depends how many people think that way I guess.
I wasn't even considering Radeon before this because I'm interested in the RTX features (I would have just waited for the next Nvidia launch even if it was March next year), but now that they've encouraged me to want to upgrade I'll just get a Radeon card if they're available first.
Didn't GN make a video and found that stock was comparable to previous launches?
i think its less rdna and more shareholders, amd is a shareholder juggernaut now and having a really big, really powerful launch is always good for stock numbers
Not only that, people seem to forget that a lot of the chip manufacturing plants closed down for a few months, this doesn't surprise me at all that there is such limited supply atm, it's due to covid, things will get better as covid starts to die down, in the countries that are smart enough to try to get it down.
I don't think TSMC did, so AMD might be fine. Lol Nvidia made a big mistake in partnering with Samsung at this time.