Mormon voters appear to double-down on Trump

If you compare the shift in votes from 2016, (for bigger map go here, then click 'shift from 2016' below map), with counties with high Mormon percent (for example, green on this map), there appears to be a very high correlation.

Posted Nov 5, 2020, 7:30 PM UTC

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TurningTwo•

No respect from me. Really don’t want to hear anything from Mormons anymore regarding morality or family values. Their support for totally unprincipled Trump can’t be explained away by Supreme Court picks.

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prnorm•

From the few I've talked to, they just choose to believe that both candidates are equally bad. So they've accepted Trump is awful, but believe Biden is just as bad so may as well vote Republican.

Clearly faulty logic to any neutral observer, but I think that's how the cognitive dissonance is resolved for many.

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KelseyLyth•

I also believe many of them voted red because the dems are “baby killers”. Which also means they haven’t researched abortion rules and laws at all.

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sullen_maximus•

I know several people who only voted for Trump because he's "Pro-life"....................

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koickOP•

Oh he likes life all right... his own!

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DelayVectors•

Neutral observers? Where do you find those?

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prnorm•

I get what you're saying but I think that's nitpicking when it can be understood contextually what I mean. Just about anybody that's not a mormon voting for trump could be relatively neutral in observing that this is bad justification.

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Seemseasy•

If I blow up a building in the name of Allah, but I really believed it was the right hing to do, does that make it ok?

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prnorm•

Uh what does this have to do with my comment?

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jojomecocoSugarhouse•

I have zero respect for any Mormon who voted for Trump. Doing so reeks of hypocrisy. You can't go to church and preach "love one another" and then turn around and support a man who does the exact opposite.

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Chrysophrase•

Same.. 90 percent of my hometown voted for Trump. I'm disgusted.

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WayneKrane•

My coworker is Mormon. She just ignores the news and votes straight R. I doubt she even knows the names of the people she is voting for.

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LurpyGeek•

This is true of many voters for both major parties.

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sullen_maximus•

I honestly wish they removed parties from the list of candidates.

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VeryTankie•

I don’t get this. People say it all the time but what’s wrong with just voting for a party?

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sullen_maximus•

The fact it encourages blind voting. Which is garbage. It really limits odds of anyone who isn't with the parties from making it on the ballot because you can't compete with idiot blanket party voters.

Not to mention, it encourages people to join a party. Even if they don't agree with it purely for those empty votes.

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capn_gingerbeard•

Yep. I have a coworker who exclusively votes blue, doesn't even bother to read up on them first because, in his own words, 'a literal piece of dog shit in a blue bag is a better use of a vote than giving it to a republican. Sometimes I feel like the concept of people over party doesn't really exist anymore on either side.

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lxkspal•

My grandparents are mormon.They've voted for Biden this year because they're entirely digusted by Trump and they don't understand why other Mormons are voting for him despite being against everything they value.

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graviton34Holladay•

that's not really unexpected. We had Evan McMullins in 2016 running and he garnered a huge portion of the mormon vote, being mormon himself. Without him running, or another popular mormon as a 3rd party candidate they then would have defaulted to republican/Trump

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KravyHolladay•

this. they had a perfectly viable candiate and they chose Donald “Grab em by the pussy” Trump. Shameful.

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trentleytenenbaum•

Evan McMullin also publicly endorsed Biden and frequently calls out Trump on Twitter.

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mattdalorian•

An isolationist cult likes xenophobic rhetoric? Shocker.

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navpor•

They're not really isolationists or any more of a cult than Judaism or Islam. In fact that's why they send missionaries all over the world, is to bring more people into their wacky religion. Most mormons just vote red every time without thinking. Blue doesn't really match well with a lot of LDS values like abortion or trans rights.

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RealDaddyTodd•

They're not really ... any more of a cult than Judaism or Islam.

Exactly. They're all cults. Why did you leave out Xtianity?

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No Evan McMullin this time.

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Zzazu•

Why start making good choices now?

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KelseyLyth•

My dad is mormon and was a bishop for the past 5 years. He voted Biden this year. I’m thankful because I can call and vent to him about my Mormon in-laws being passionately Republican Trump supporters!

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koickOP•

More power to him for independently thinking! I specifically worded this (e.g. used "appears") to not completely alienate (or speak for all of) our Mormon brethren. There were probably many that had a difficult time listening to their conscience and chose to vote Democratic party (maybe even for the first time in their lives). I applaud their reflecting on the facts and bravery in doing so.

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SuzVision•

I saw a map trending on Twitter that showed the scenario if only women voted in the 2020 election. Utah stayed red. Not shocking but definitely sickening.

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Complete hypocrites who live in an alternate reality. Zero trust and credibility left for Mormons.

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It’s morally degenerate but in terms of real-politik makes sense

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Are you white? Possibly a white man? By your logic, I can no longer have any respect for you since there is a correlation between white people, especially white men, and support for Trump.

The main reason there is a huge shift on that first map isn't that Utah has increased our support for Trump, it is that Utah hasn't increase its support for Democrats and last time a quarter of Utah voted third party.

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