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r/ghostoftsushima•
Bashinteroth

Wake me up in 10 years so I can see GoT’s influence on Japanese games without having to wait.

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Let’s be honest guys, Ghost is a masterpiece; you can feel the passion, love and care in every detail of the game. Ghost is like Dynasty Warriors ... if DW was any good. Ghost is like The Witcher ... if the Witcher had decent combat. My point is, think about the influence this game is going to have years from now; how many young people are going to play this and be inspired to go off and make something similar. I am excited because a game like this doesn’t come around often ... and I know GoT woke up Japan, for sure.

Posted Nov 12, 2020, 11:56 AM UTC

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GayladPL•

Im already hyped as hell for GoT2 and possibly and hopefully Legends 2 or whatever name will be given!

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BashinterothOP•

Legends is so good. I can understand why they wouldn’t want to put more effort into expanding it so they can focus on the next game ... however, I really wish they would make some more modes to keep us sated in the mean time. How sick would a capture the flag mode with something like 8v8 be? Granted, the game is by no means balanced for PvP; but the potential for it to be is there.

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SonOfAhuraMazda•

Keep it pve only please.

Pvp just brings the cheesers and people who use the cheapest builds

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NinjaTeddyBear1267:samurai:•

I actually agree with this I already rage enough when my entire team gets downed there’s no ronin and 3 Oni brutes I can’t imagine how toxic the player base would become either with the spam classes as much as I would would love PvP I think the game would need to change things to make it fair

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BashinterothOP•

Yeah, you have a valid concern. I think there are ways for it to work without being toxic and broken. For me, I would love to explore different avenues of this game; Sucker Punch has something very special here and I love their willingness to experiment. Legends is such a leap from the single player experience. I was skeptical when they first announced it but I was completely floored by how fun it is to play ... and that is why I would love to see the game expand more.

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BashinterothOP•

If PvP was a thing I would prefer they make it where there are no builds. Everyone on equal footing with the same kit. Perhaps pepper the map with ammo, limited use special weapons. It could work in a way that didn’t feel broken I think. They have already shown a willingness to isolate multiplayer from the single player experience, I don’t see how isolating the PvP from PvE would be problematic in the slightest.

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GayladPL•

I think Legends was an experiment how high popular it can become, an experiment before something bigger in the future, i can imagine that SP will do something similarly with support for the month’s but either paid DLS or paid season pass and iam of course willing to pay for both single and multiplayer.

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BashinterothOP•

I think you are correct, and I would happily pay for more content. I have no problems voting with my wallet because money is a strong motivator and best way to support something you like.

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noah_the_boi29:hunter:•

Will do

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whitesink20•

Witcher 3 has decent combat, my dude. But I see your point. GOT is freaking awesome!

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BashinterothOP•

Yeah, I don’t think combat in the Witcher was bad... it just was the weakest thing the game had going for it.

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dzonibegood•

Just to get some things straight out there. Yes GoT is GOTY material. Game is extra good and strong but the game didn't do anything fresh and new. Game is brilliant mostly because there are barely any such games that are worth mentioning. Nioh I and II Sekiro and there may be couple more i'm not aware of and that's it. What is most likely going to happen is you won't see any influence on its games because there is no influence to push forward except the message that the world wants more of Asian culture.

You know which game actually brought something fresh and new? Death Stranding. That game, its story setting the gameplay... none of it is trully in market. I mean sure you can find similarities to other open world games but that's where it stops.

DS was just one example of an actual influencing game.

Also it is funny how you mentioned Witcher 3 when GoT is direct influence of Witcher 3. That game literally turned ooen world industry upside down. The gameplay the story the open world environment... we can go on and on.

The game is good and brilliant but it is not something people can find influence in.

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KingofSwagmar•

I agree with you about Death Stranding in terms of passion and market ramifications. I also think it was boring as shit and the plot points and storytelling were comical in their execution, especially the entire 1/3 of the game.

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lkxyz•

But have you ever played anything like Death Stranding before? No, you haven't and you will probably never again.

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BashinterothOP•

I think you completely got the wrong idea here. I merely made a jest that the combat in the Witcher is not as good as GoT. I did not make any other comparison so you are defending the Witcher on ground that I did not tread on. If you would like to have a discussion about what makes the Witcher a great game I would love to have it; however, as far as the topic I was trying to have a discussion about is concerned, I do think that GoT will influence the Japanese audience and I more specifically feel that a young person, one who hasn’t experienced anything as good as this game yet, would be drawn in simply by the setting and wowed by its Beaty and simplicity.

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lkxyz•

I think you have a very surface level understanding of Japanese culture. But this is to be expected from a western audience's perspective.

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BashinterothOP•

Your comment makes no sense. How does my understanding of Japanese culture have anything to do with my praise of a video game? You can disagree with me, but taking a jab at my understanding of an entire culture is not only irrelevant here but you don’t even know me; for all you know, I could have lived in Japan my entire life. GoT is a fictional piece of art that is full of imagery that is significant for Japan. I’m not sure how many young people you have in your life but most of them are only playing Minecraft, Fortnite and Mario Kart ... not that any of them are bad, however, most narrative games don’t keep their attention long enough to draw them in. Which brings me to my initial point; This game has the potential to pull in a young audience that has yet to see a game like this.

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bettercallconnolly•

The thing is, Ghost doesn't do anything particularly revolutionary.

Light/heavy attacks with dodge/block/parry and abilities is the foundation of so many action games these days. Witcher. Sekiro. Fallen Order. Ghost just executes it very well indeed.

It just goes to show that you do not need to be revolutionary with your game mechanics, you just have to do them well.

I do adore the lack of minimap and guiding wind however; and hope more games implement similar things.

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BashinterothOP•

Yeah, I think you have a good understanding as to why this game is so good. There are absolutely some pitfalls in this game and I’ve had some ample discussions about my feelings in that regard. However, what makes this game truly great are some of the simple things it executes precisely. One thing I will say that is absolutely brilliant is the level design in legends; more specifically, the survival maps. From simply a design perspective, it’s notable how each level is design to take advantage of how each class functions. On each map you will find a notable choke point for assassins and ronin to lay down traps and use smoke screens to make assassinations. Each level features a strait away of some kind for a Hunter to pick off targets as they run into the point. Also in each map you will find a point that is more challenging where enemies come from multiple sides which is better suited for the melee combat Samurai class. Brilliant game design, in my opinion, is one where it enables the player to experience and enjoy the game but forget that they are still playing a game and in many instances, I believe, ghost brilliantly nails this philosophy.

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