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truecore

Nevoota Bee, Counter and Reserve Hangar Deck

Note: this is all based off teased information.

Nevoota Bee grants a non-unique squadron Swarm for the duration of its activation.

Counter occurs during a squadrons activation, as part of resolving the attack.

Reserve Hangar Deck allows a non-unique squadron with Swarm to be restored if it is in distance 1-5 of the ship when it is killed.

If during Nevoota Bee's activation, an activated non-unique squadron is killed by a squadron with counter, can't that squadron be restored at 2 hull by any ship with Reserve Hangar Deck equipped, since it had Swarm at the time of its death?

This is particularly relevant because the Consular cruiser variant teased thus far also shows it as having an Offensive Retrofit slot available to fit RHD. Given that RHD already synergizes with V-19 (escort, swarm) and only costs 3 points, I imagine it will be a staple of Republic squadron lists.

The thought makes me cringe, considering generic Delta-7's with Dodge 1 and Counter 2 will already be insufferable, much less them returning to life round-after-round after kamikazeing.

Posted Nov 15, 2020, 1:56 AM UTC

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WustyCwab•

Holy crap... I think you're right because it does say it gains the keyword!

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truecoreOP•

I think anyone using Nevoota Bee is already going to be prioritizing activating non-Swarm generics, otherwise its a bit of a waste to take that title. If you're already doing that, why not take advantage of the synergy with RHD's, is what I think.

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Flyinpenguin117•

You can only regenerate one squad per upgrade, since you have to discard it, at most you can get 3 recoveries if you're not investing in any other Offensive Retrofits. And you have to actually attack something with counter, and you have to actually be killed by it. Rules-wise it works (assuming RHB doesn't get updated), but its incredibly janky and unlikely to ever go off in any meaningful way.

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truecoreOP•

In my opinion, V-19's will make RHD more worthwhile than it was before. Considering how useful escort can be, keeping escorts around to protect aces/bombers so they can do what they need to do, RHD would be very important for me at least. Nevoota then opens up new opportunities for other generics to handle or ignore certain aces like Soontir Fel etc.

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MustrumRidcully0•

Reserve Hangar Decks with Swarm Escorts is definitely interesting.

And Reserve Hangar Decks with non-Swarm ships being temporarily swarm is fun, but probably not something to build for - just to enjoy when it happens "haha, just got a reprieve for my high value squadron for a meager 3 points".

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SWATruthiness•

Yep, this is an accurate interpretation of the rules. However, you are greatly overestimating the power. This is stopped by just not taking your counter shot. It's only until the end of the activation, so just wait out the activation and kill it afterward. If the squad is low enough to die to a counter attack, it's low enough to die to another attack immediately after. If you bring RHDs just for this interaction, you are wasting you points. Now if you have some V-19s, but you catch an opponent napping on this interaction, that's a good day for you.

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truecoreOP•

I think V-19 + RHD will be a staple for squadron lists. Especially since, thus far, every Republic ship can take RHD. Keeping escorts in the fight to make sure aces do their stuff is too good.

But I didn't necessarily say it was overpowered, I just said that using this with Delta-7's would be a pain in the ass for an opponent. It's a niche use for it, but I don't think its so overly niche as to be ignored. In competitive squadron versus squadron fights, the opening part of the furball is full of crucial choices. Having a generic shoot rather than a damaged ace, and knowing that the generic will be safe, gives a lot more value to the generic. At the very least, you are wasting the Nevoota Bee title if you are not taking advantage of this, since Nevoota Bee is useless with aces and V-19's.

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Ok-West-4164•

The way RHD reads to me, is if swarm is printed on the squadron in question. Not temporarily granted.

And if it's not the case. RHD, needs to be discarded to work. It can happen only happen a number of times for each ship has RHD, it comes back next to a ship rather than where it popped, with 2 wounds remaining, and activated already.

Cute idea, but overall not terribly threatening. Now if you could recover discarded upgrades as part of the process, then my concern level will grow.

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Flyinpenguin117•

Upgrades will specify if its checking for a printed keyword, ie, Unity. Unless RHBs gets updated in the card pack to specify printed Swarm.

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TheRealNeal99•

I know a lot of people aren’t answering any Clone Wars questions until we get an official release and everything, including the new rules, is in front of them. Right now it’s just speculation.

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