"Flip and Rip" is an awful trend and the community shouldn't be encouraging it

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Meaninglessly ruining things just comes across as not appreciating what you have. It's stupid, it's wasteful, and as a budget player it feels really insulting to see streamers buying cards just to tear them up because "it's funny". If you feel like throwing away money, just give the cards to somebody who wants them instead.

Posted Dec 15, 2020, 2:50 PM UTC

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Multievolution•

Let’s be honest people aren’t doing it for fun when no ones watching, it’s up there with kaiba ripping the 4th blue eyes in terms of just being an ass, there’s videos of people breaking consoles for the meme and there was even a YouTube series dedicated to microwaving stupid things, I agree it is wasteful but sadly there’s always people who have it all willing to do this while those less fortunate get to watch, (been this way for as long as there’s been rich people.)

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JeffeetBarrage•

I mean the thing is, they ask for like twice the price of the product to do a "Flip&Rip" so they can never minus off a box while also getting content.

For example Coder made like $200 off 4 2019 mega tins yesterday by rich people donating to make him rip the cardboard.

It just makes sense to do it, the audience gets really invested in it because either they rip the money card and it's really funny or they flip the money card and it's really hype.

They literally cannot lose with this type of content. (Unless they don't pull the money card in which case they've plussed off a box that wouldn't plus.)

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AST_PEENG•

It's very disgusting behaviour from these creators and those who support this are equally as sick and privileged.

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CrownClown77Y’arrr•

People can do what they want with their property. If it was throwing away food or clothes or something that could be donated to a person in actual need (and no, being a budget player does not count as a person in need) then yes I agree that’s extremely wasteful and disrespectful. But people doing what they want with products they collect for a hobby should not be shamed. Yes it might feel bad to you, but that doesn’t really give you a platform to shame others.

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Gshiinobilocal gx stan•

Until this post i had never heard of anyone do this in my nearly 15 years playing.

I suppose it has to do with the fact that I don't live in a first world country, "flip and rip" seems like a really dumb american-like thing to do.

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Assistance_Fuzzy•

I would like to say flip and rip started with someone from the UK

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NintenPyjak64:att-dark: Scrap Fist!•

When I first saw a "Flip or Rip", the dude fucking ripped a Hyper Rare Charizard and Reshiram Tag Team. It's so fucking stupid

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JeffeetBarrage•

Do you have the link? That sounds hilarious.

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DominicanRanger:att-wind:•

I'm gonna have to be the minority and agree with you on how fucking funny that sounds.

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NintenPyjak64:att-dark: Scrap Fist!•

https://youtu.be/hXHbajjesdI

This basically spawned a "mini series" where he gave one he already pulled to some kid he knew, tried to pull another and iirc he ended up with 2, one he pulled and another the kid pulled with the intention of giving it to him

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Souikamaru:att-dark:•

Sounds like a whole lot of "Boohoo, people are not doing what I want them to do with their money" in here.

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DominicanRanger:att-wind:•

Big fax there chief.

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NerdFactorMemes•

You the kinda guy to PM Team APS on twitter and ask for free cards

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CantBanTheJan•

Any popular streamer who buys $200 worth of product earns $500 back through donations or ad rev. If not more. I agree, a giveaway would be more charitable, but that'd be more effort to the streamer, and they hate effort.

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DominicanRanger:att-wind:•

Well let's put it this way if you could get more and hurt nobody except a whining minority's feelings by doing less effort, wouldn't you do less effort? Cuz I most definitely would.

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CantBanTheJan•

Obscenity keeps entertainers entertaining. It's what it's always has been.

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Hummingslowly•

bro what

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DominicanRanger:att-wind:•

It's economics 101 work smarter not harder

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FokionK1Imperfectly Unbalanced•

Original reply: downvoted

Additional reply: Upvoted

I love reddit.

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ZerefisbeastBurn up the soul - Metalfoes Fusion!! •

I mean it isn't your money or your cards they are doing it with so why do you care?

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acroxshadowOPMuh China•

These cards could've been given to someone who would actually get use out of them. Destroying things for no reason is wasteful.

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AnubisAbyssRuler•

I'm guessing you don't have a single card in bulk then?

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Sento-Shinto•

I don't disagree with the wasteful part, but unless they have someone in mind, why wouldn't they rip it for more money?

Not saying it's a good trend, but 20 bucks is 20 bucks.

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JeffeetBarrage•

You give away every card in your bulk?

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Kiertana•

Do you spend money on cards? Because that money could of gone to someone who would of got more use from it

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Ashirogi8112008•

Wasteful or not people have the right to treat their property however they choose. If the person's goal wasn't to have playable cards and was instead to gain the entertainment value or stream content then it wasn't a waste at all, only someone using a resource in a different way than you would use it. If one person has plenty of stockpiled food and the others have barely enough to get by do you think the one should have to share?

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RedEyesNeverMetaDestroy during the end phase•

Because it permanently removes cards from the market and makes it harder for players to obtain singles they need. If it takes off as a trend with content creators then it's going to have a significant effect on pricing for singles due to increasing scarcity of product.

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lordoftheaxesI just like blinding second•

Pack opening channels almost never resell their pulls anyways, rather it derive some people a few moments of amusement over it sitting in some box for the rest of time.

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Midknight226•

No it won't. The amount of product people on youtube open is tiny compared to to overall amount of product out there. They would have to be opening hundreds of cases for it to realistically affect prices.

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DominicanRanger:att-wind:•

Uh...hate to break it to ya but that's not mathematically correct there my guy.

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JckRover•

You realize how much product is made right? I'm sure that 0.02$ common might of been 0.01$ if it the content creators hadn't ripped a piece of cardboard. Besides this same argument could be used for people keeping bulk. Noone has the time to go through hundreds of common cards to sell them, go to any local store and half the people there throw away bulk commons anyway. Atleast this creates content

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teamsprocket•

So you feel entitled to others' products that they purchased because they aren't using them the way you want?

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RedEyesNeverMetaDestroy during the end phase•

No, what the fuck. They don't have to give those cards to anyone, but they shouldn't be purchasing them just to destroy it. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Andres091•

How is ripping the cards different to just keeping them in bulk, in either case the card is never going to reach another person

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Chill lmao wtf

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niqniqniq•

Lmao let people do what they want with their cards

In the end it just a piece of cardboards

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EmiliaIsBestWaifu•

What you are saying is if I'm going to waste my money I should just donate it? I mean Flip and Rip is just an entertaining way to open a booster pack so it does have value. The way one person spend their own money shouldn't matter to you as the game itself is harmless.

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CursedEye03:att-dark:•

Ripping cards is one of the things that I hate the most. Yeah, sure, some cards are REALLY bad, but they still deserve some respect. Ripping them is just insulting and incredibly disrespectful.

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FuXs-•

Most cards are literally trash. They are completely worthless and a waste of space. I dont mind throwing bulk away, its not worth the effort or time to organize or trying to move them. Nothing disrespectful about that.

Someone else might find use out of your trash, but do you go out of your way to find them and load off whatever it is?

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g0ddammitb0bby•

Yeah I use extra cards to make decks I give away to kids in shelters or children’s hospitals.

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NerdFactorMemes•

Yeah man show some god damn respect to the piece of card board

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JeffeetBarrage•

I show a lot of respect to my Sky Striker Ace - Raye.

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dune_thebrofessor•

Tbf Raye deserves the respect she's the main piece of one of the best decks of all time.

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And if every rich person in the world gave me a couple hundred/thousand dollars they wouldnt miss anyway, I would be rich too. Sadly thats not how this world is so yeah.

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wolffow•

"Streamer doesn't do with his money what i want him to do with it BabyRage" in all seriousness, let them have thier content. If you do not like it, just don't watch it.

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DominicanRanger:att-wind:•

But what if...and stay with me here...I don't donate those cards to randos which would cost me money to mail possibly causing me to break even and make next to no profit, but rather get paid for ripping useless cards that are a dime in a dozen and reap in more money than I spent and entertain ppl while I'm at it?

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xabintheotter•

Thing is, I've seen at least one person do that to an actual useful card (Mirror Force, I believe, back when it was still useful), simply because they thought it was trash and didn't want to give it away, despite other people wanting it.

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S-ClassRen•

If they wanted to take a steaming dump on their cards I wouldn't care.

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vito0117•

They are doing the same shit with pokemon cards 1st edition jungle set its maddening

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