[Sun Care] Under UV Camera: Ultrasun Anti Pollution Face Fluid & Neutrogena with Helioplex XP (brief comparison)

Sun Care

Hey everyone! Been so busy with my side project for these few weeks but I'm allowing myself to take it easy during this holiday season...(coughcough)...procrastination at its best hahaha!!

It's gonna be a long post, get your coffee/tea! I'm having peppermint chocolate milk as I'm typing. Yumyum!

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Disclaimer: I only use the UV camera to see if a sunscreen disperses an even layer (or patchy and spotty); and if I miss out a spot during application. It's not by all means to measure the sunscreen protection level. Got mine from sunscreenr.com. It's compatible with android phone.

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Ultrasun Anti Pollution Face Fluid

UV Filters: Tinosorb M, Titanium Dioxide, Octisalate, Tinosorb S, Uvinul A Plus, Uvinul T 150

Has alcohol low in the list, fragrance free, has white cast.

All Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/IwYD3v2

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Preparation

I applied the sunscreen on my left arm, took photos using UV camera (Sunscreenr). I indicate the timing accordingly on the photos. I use a UV lamp (for curing gel nail) as the source of light.

Edit for clarity: I don't apply any body lotion on my arms prior any sunscreen application (be it this post, or my older posts). It's my bare naked arms (I shower twice a day so it's clean from any moisturizer residue too)

Amount of application & texture: https://imgur.com/Y7pXSMZ

Shine level: https://imgur.com/bVRrfnZ

UV Camera (straight after application): https://imgur.com/akCaVEh

White Cast: https://imgur.com/wTNmfrM

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Rub Under Running Water:

I rubbed it gently under running sink water. I said "gently" because with my previous experience with Ultrasun Extreme and Ultrasun Family, it didn't stay put on rubbing motion (even though the sunscreen looked 'set')

My arm: https://imgur.com/oWuSBE6

Under UV Camera: https://imgur.com/3nphW9v

Disappointing, as expected :((

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Removal

I skipped this portion since it is pretty much gone when I rubbed it under running water.

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Bonus

A kind redditor told me before, to try putting on moisturizer on top of the sunscreen. So I did that. I use Eucerin Advanced Repair Cream on top of my arm and massaged it. I added an indicator where I put the moisturizer stopped / demarcation line

My arm: https://imgur.com/Mzx5O7I

Under UV Camera: https://imgur.com/elX568q

Do you see what I see??? I think the portion where I applied moisturizer is darker, no???

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Reviews / Thoughts:

For reference, I have oily skin and living in humid tropical southeast asia.

My morning routine is short, my skin is as good as bare dry skin before any sunscreen. I use tretinoin 0.05% cream every night (but I don't have any peeling/dryness).

AM: Vanicream cleanser > a water-weight serum (coz I DIY it myself) > Finacea gel > Benzoyl Peroxide gel > Sunscreen.

White Cast

Yep, there is intense white cast as one would expect with Tinosorb M high on the list. I use it on my neck due to that reason.

The cast is more or less the same with other EU high Tinosorb M sunscreens. I have tried: Avene Dry Touch Fluid, Avene Cleanance SPF, A-derma Protect AD Cream, A-derma Protect AC Mattifying Fluid, Ultrasun Extreme.

If my memory serves me right, the Ultrasun Extreme has more intense white cast than this Ultrasun Anti Pollution Fluid though.

The white cast intensifies when in contact with water and sweat in my experience.

Eye Stinging

I don't experience any eye stinging. I actually use this exclusively on my neck and eyelids as it contains more of new gen filters.

Finish

Well, I have low expectation for EU sunscreen in terms of finish. You could tell from my pics, it's not matte. It's not dry touch. It will pill if I keep on rubbing. You can feel it's going to "set", but it's no where "dry". It remains tacky on my arms (even more so on oily face). It settles into dry patches.

It also sticks and clumps on my eyebrows and hairline. Well, nothing unusual from Tinosorb M sunscreen tbh. For those who ever used Tinosorb M will probably realize this aspect.

Reapplication

It pilled on me during reapplication. Even if I managed to make it work, the white cast will intensify.

Admittedly, I don't reapply with this one lol since it's mostly using new gen filters. It's a risk I am willing to take.

Scent

It has no fragrance, doesn't smell like anything for me.

Misc.

As I use this on my neck, it settles into the horizontal neck folds. I haven't had any solution for this, it's unsightly but nothing deal breaking for me.

When I sweat with this (e.g exercise), the sunscreen will run down unfortunately. It stays put for generally humid weather (e.g. casual days). But I won't use this for running, for example.

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Alternative: Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch Lotion with Helioplex XP

UV Filters: Homosalate, Octocrylene, Avobenzone, Octisalate, Tinosorb M, Uvinul T 150, Tinosorb S, Titanium Dioxide

Thanks to a very nice redditor bringing attention of this product to me, I have recently purchased a new Tinosorb M sunscreen from Neutrogena (note: with Helioplex XP, not the old Helioplex, made in Korea, PPD31).

It's much more elegant to use for a Tinosorb M sunscreen. Granted, it still uses some older filters and the Tinosorb M is not as high % I suppose.

It never sticks/clumps to my eyebrows and hairline. It's still too glowy in my liking though.

The cast is still present but with less opaque than this Ultrasun. It's like giving me tone up look at most.

The fragrance is pretty strong but not offensive for me (unlike the Lierac Sunissime Global Protector SPF50+, that one is straight putting eau de perfume on my face imo).

Comparison side by side:

All pics: https://imgur.com/a/naVVhyq

Texture: https://imgur.com/9RoE45N

Shine & Cast: https://imgur.com/e2FBmTB | https://imgur.com/e50BvhF

Coverage under UV Camera: https://imgur.com/7VUuQM2

https://imgur.com/VXgtu5Z - I wore the Neutrogena on my face (~2.5 fingers length), nothing on my ear, I had 1 finger length of Ultrasun on my front neck (it's less white on my neck than my face for whatever reason).

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There you have it! I suppose this will be my last post of 2020!?Allow me to say: Happy Christmas and Happy New Year (in advance) for all of you!!

Cheers for a better times ahead!!! 😎

edit: spacing, more info

Posted Dec 20, 2020, 7:30 AM UTC · edited

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_stav_•

Thank you!!!

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chocosweetOP•

You're welcome!

I feel like the one with moisturizer on top is pretty baffling. I don't know what to translate from that 😅

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_stav_•

So this is not super water resistant as it claims? What a disappointment. (I just bought a second bottle 🤦🏻‍♂️) Which sunscreen would you recommend overall?

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Peter_789•

This experiment is different from how the official test is done, that test is not done with rubbing and not with direct water flow onto the area, just immersion in water, not touching the area and enough water circulation as far as I know.

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_stav_•

Yes but shouldn’t there be a correlation with how well it can stand such a test? OP does the same with all and other water resistant sunscreens had much better resistance.

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chocosweetOP•

So this is not super water resistant as it claims?

RIGHT?! I was like: "what is this?!?" when I rubbed it under running water. It is not cheap :((

The Ultrasun Extreme also behaved the same way with water. That's unfortunate, really.

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Which sunscreen would you recommend overall?

I would still happily recommend the Garnier one to be honest, for the price, finish and filters! Too bad it's not that easily accessible (as of now)

I don't mind the Neutrogena one, but alas, the cast is problematic for reapplication.

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_stav_•

So it is sure you did not have a body moisturizer underneath? They claim that it is to bind to clean naked skin and the it is not removed for the whole day even if you swim. How can they claim that?

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mariabronn•

Sunscreenr seems to be perpetually sold out, so these reports are super helpful!

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Arial-Narrow•

I did enjoy a lot reading your review; very informative. Thumbs up.

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Skskskskanioop•

Lololol this is so unrelated but I thought in the first picture that your arm was just really shiny

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BurgundySnail•

Thank you! Do you consider trying asian sunscreens with Tinosorb M? I own several European ones, and as you said they are horrible. But all asian ones, korean or japanese, are actually pretty nice and I quite enjoy them. Maybe they contain Tinosorb M in lower concentrations, I don't know, but at least they are wearable and don't pill.

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chocosweetOP•

I do. After all I live in Southeast Asia, scoring AB sunscreen is a piece of cake.

I have tried a few in the past:

Skinfood Sunflower No Sebum Gel (I have post here)

Skinfood Dragonfruit Sun Essence - greasy, shiny, overpowering scent.

Etude House UV Double Cut Fresh - greasy, shiny.

It's Skin Smart Solution 365 Matt Finish Sun Gel - greasy, shiny.

I'm waiting for the new Skin Aqua with Tinosorb M to reach our market here. Last week I went to check the drugstore, they still have the older formulation.

Edit to add:

The Neutrogena I linked in my post is actually nice for a Tinosorb M sunscreen. So smooth. Guess having it "made in korea" gives it a better texture!

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BurgundySnail•

I have it's skin and skin aqua, and I would say they are both shiny in the same range, but I do not find them greasy. I guess I have different climate...but maybe the skin aqua a tiny bit lighter then it's skin.

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PowderScent_redux•

Oh interesting! Have you tried the face anti-again spf50 from Ultrasun? No white cast. I found it quite nice also under makeup :)

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chocosweetOP•

Yes I have. I had the Anti Age Tinted Ivory and it's fine. Still pilled on reapplication though.

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