Dance of the Dragons II: "New" Foreshadowing? (Spoilers Extended)
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In this post I wanted to discuss some "new" foreshadowing I may have found (and Im sure it has been theorized/discussed previously but its new to me which is interesting since if you know anything about my posting history, Im a big advocate of the Dance of the Dragons II).
Dance of the Dragons II "New" Foreshadowing
In TWOW, The Forsaken we get this quote while Aeron is tripping hard on Shade of the Evening:
The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling blood-red sea. He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in woman’s form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire. Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, naked and misshapen, locked in carnal embrace, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed …
Which in this passage could be interpreted in numerous ways, but seeing as the last time dwarfs were mentioned during a Shade of the Evening hallucination was when Dany visited the House of the Undying:
In one room, a beautiful woman sprawled naked on the floor while four little men crawled over her. They had rattish pointed faces and tiny pink hands, like the servitor who had brought her the glass of shade. One was pumping between her thighs. Another savaged her breasts, worrying at the nipples with his wet red mouth, tearing and chewing. -ACOK, Daenerys IV
This is normally taken to be a reference to Westeros/The War of the Five Kings. If we apply similar logic to Aeron's vision:
Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, naked and misshapen, locked in carnal embrace, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed
I think this can be:
A reference/foreshadowing to the upcoming Dance of the Dragons II. fAegon and Dany fighting each other over the throne, while not focused on the "real enemy".
Other Foreshadowing
While most seem to agree that an upcoming Dance of the Dragons will happen, the main discussion seems to be primarily on the scope (fAegon has a dragon, etc.). I think that the above quote points to a more expansive Dance of the Dragons (instead of say Dany showing up and just roasting fAegon VI in King's Landing). The biggest counter argument is timing (7 books still..) but we also have:
Teora's Vision
It was then that pasty, pudgy Teora raised her eyes from the creamcakes on her plate. "It is dragons."
"Dragons?" said her mother. "Teora, don't be mad."
"I'm not. They're coming."
"How could you possibly know that?" her sister asked, with a note of scorn in her voice. "One of your little dreams?"
Teora gave a tiny nod, chin trembling. "They were dancing. In my dream. And everywhere the dragons danced the people died." -TWOW, Arianne I
George's Quote
Hi, short question. Will we find out more about the Dance of the Dragons in future books?
The first dance or the second?
The second will be the subject of a book. The first will be mentioned from time to time, I'm sure. -SSM, Concerning the Dance of the Dragons: 22 November 2003
Obviously there is plenty of other small possible foreshadowings that we could get into, but that wasn't the goal of the post, so I just included those two big pieces of evidence (which both also have good counterarguments as well). But lets get back to the Aeron quote.
The quote (again):
Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female**, naked and misshapen, locked in carnal embrace, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed**
It really seems to mirror the first vision (War of the 5 Kings vs. Dance of the Dragons) and also fits well with this quote by Stannis:
"I am no lord, sire. You came because we sent for you, I hope. Though I could not say why you took so long about it."
Surprisingly, Stannis smiled at that. "You're bold enough to be a Stark. Yes, I should have come sooner. If not for my Hand, I might not have come at all. Lord Seaworth is a man of humble birth, but he reminded me of my duty, when all I could think of was my rights. I had the cart before the horse, Davos said. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne." Stannis pointed north. "There is where I'll find the foe that I was born to fight."
"His name may not be spoken," Melisandre added softly. "He is the God of Night and Terror, Jon Snow, and these shapes in the snow are his creatures."-ASOS, Jon XI
Let me know your thoughts! Obviously there are some decent counterarguments to each of the points/quotes I included and I dont mind discussing those at all.
I do plan on making a more encompassing "Dance of the Dragons II" post at some point as I have for some of the other events that could be repeated in the series: Red Wedding 2.0, Night's King 2.0, War of the Wolves II, etc. but I just found this quote to be a decent parallel to our first Shade of the Evening vision.
I also wanted to shoutout to u/BryndenBFish. His banger of a post: The Mad Prince of Winterfell: How Chapter Order and Structure Reveal Backstory is where I first noticed this and had this thought. Im sure someone has posted about this previously, but hey I love the idea of a major second dance and wanted to discuss.
TLDR: Dany and fAegon are going to waste precious time/forces, etc. fighting each other instead of the true enemy and a quote from The Forsaken foreshadows that.
Posted Dec 25, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC · edited