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r/EscapefromTarkov•
KyleGG

Too many player scavs on interchange

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I've been running interchange, and i think I kill on average 5-6+ player scavs. BSG - put limits on this shit. Its unreal. Its all tight corridors and you cant even loot the mall.

I've gone into the mall and there was player scavs ALREADY LOOTING before I could even get there. The kicker? I had an SJ6 running (going to techlight from power).

Whatever you changed - fix it. Its stupid. The map is already rat city, besides having to worry about the army of player scavs.

edit: https://streamable.com/ry8vsk

entering the mall 3 minutes into the raid. Pretty sure a PMCs 2 player scavs and myself. Killed the one PMC behind the box, he was getting ratted by the other player scav, who had also shot and killed a guy in the beginning right after i got shot at. I had just gotten into the mall... player scav crouched in the corner killing everyone, didn't see him till it was too late. . Literally 5-6man battle of scavs <5 minutes into a raid wtf bsg

Posted Dec 27, 2020, 8:22 PM UTC · edited

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Nizlmmk•

Seriously I had a good run yesterday killed 2 yoked pmc's and a bunch of scavs, then 4 player scavs pushed before I could even loot anything and I died after killing 2. After about 15 interchange runs since the patch I find myself dieing way to much to the army of player scavs that spawn in at 35 minutes.

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KyleGGOP•

Glad i'm not the only one.

I am enjoying it still - just not as a PMC. I was running kitted, and with that many player scavs ratting I cannot justify bringing gear. I ran through all my gen4's, my korunds are all sold out from prapor. After 6 raids trying to get a few gphones im out of gear I had. Just scavs everywhere. Ratting infront of oli, ratting in front of kiba, ratting back of goshan, camping the extract (heard 300 gunshots last 10 minutes outside of emercom...).

I decide to scav, corpses everywhere. 2 player scavs within 30ft of my spawn. Its a warzone.

Really enjoying it as a scav though - i can get my gphones as a scav anyway. Gotta run through all the stores once though then F interchange day raids.

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Aceylah•

People want those gas analyzers without having to run that dog shit rat infested map on their pmc.

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CnD123•

Best map

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KyleGGOP•

Like my last raid I drop a 3 man going up center escalators (pmcs). I kill one player scav investigating, crab walking. I kill another going into tech light. I go to tech light loot it, clothing store infront of oli TWO MORE player scavs. I kill them both. Then go loot the tech store, TWO MORE player scavs came right up to me from front of oli. They chased me into ramussen and finally dropped me there. All within the first 15 mins of the raid. Was actually a pretty sick raid, but absolutely retarded. Only survived as long as I did because i had a .308 MDR, EXFIL, and tactec.

Scavs used to spawn in the last 20 minutes of interchange. Thats how it should be, they're scavengers, not mall PVPers. What is this hot garbage. You cant even move through this map AT ALL as a PMC anymore. Im just going to SJ6 into the center and camp like every other fucking rat.

Between the groups that always run interchange, the rats, and now the number of player scavs - its just an unplayable map for a solo player who doesn't want to rat in a corner.

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[deleted]•

spawn in, bum rush the tech and phone stores, get a tetris, 2 GPUS, and some lightbulbs/caps and maybe a gpx. sick and look at that i still have enough time to one tap the PMC who is coming in the back way from Goshan to extract with 1200 xp and everything counts as FiR. in and out under 6 min.

ngl as one of the rats you hate i kinda love it, there is a huge fight around killa and everyone is preoccupied.

my scav runs have been pretty gravy, and the PMC's on the loot caches outside have been quite profitable as well because everyone is still bumrushing the huge fight in the middle of the mall instead of ratting to the loot.

Interchange is nearly a "sure thing" if you are a rat, its not as hectic as reserve, or as spread out as shoreline. i dont really see it getting better anytime soon. Great for people like me, but frustrating for people like you

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Notarandomthrowaway1•

Interchange is the best for quick loot. If I'm getting raids not making back my kit I Judy hit the caches and bail. So much can spawn in them.

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KyleGGOP•

Its only frustrating because scavs are spawning well before they should. The intent of scavs is to pick up the scraps after PMCs have left the raid - not already be looting parts of the map before PMCs can even get there.

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Ayroplanen•

Something is weird with interchange. This wipe is the most I've ever died there.

Player scavs spawn really early, the lighting and shadows are garbage and the players spawn far too close to each other. Doesn't help scavs seems to be terminators again.

Interchange used to be one of my favorites but it's quickly becoming my most hated.

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KyleGGOP•

Yes i've noticed it too. I've sj6'd into the mall to run into a player scav looting techlight already. Its UNREAL.

I just tested out myself scav interchange, my own spawn was 8 minutes into the raid. like wtf is that shit.

Like im sure half the PMCs in the interchange i just spawned in aren't even in the mall yet. I just ran around kiba, techlight, ramussen and NOTHING. 8 minutes in. I hear shots outside emercom

edit: shots outside emercom was two player scavs who i think killed eachother (or player scav died to another scav who bled out). first guy was loaded with loot so 100% player scav. shits a warzone

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OilCan18•

Literally just died, while wearing the best kit I could afford, to 2 player scavs who were in Idea as soon as I got there (spawned at power and ran straight in)

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KyleGGOP•

Since posting i've been doing scav on interchange. First scav uses of my wipe (i don't like to use it - feels like wasted xp).

This time I spawned late. Last 20 minutes. 10 ft from me i killed a player scav looting another dead scav. After looting him i checked the food spawns back of goshan, saw another player scav with a pilgrim running infront of goshan. 2 player scavs 30 feet from where i spawned with 20 min left.

I ran through the map and there are corpses fucking everywhere. Just extracted at 2 mins. I just ran around looting player scavs. I got 3 stacked scav bps. Mk3 rig full of loot, scav bp full of loot. Easily 400k worth of loot.

Still shots ringing off at 10mins. Its a warezone.

I love that it is a warzone. I really do. Just make it a warzone AFTER pmcs can get established on the map. Who knows, this might be better for the map. I feel it just needs a little tuning, because its kinda absurd.

tons of fun though, just feels annoying as a PMC. Totally recommend scav'ing on interchange the pvp is really good.

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False_Narrative82•

I just spawned in as a player scav in the middle of the mall at 42 minutes time in raid. WHY???

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KyleGGOP•

Were you in this fight?

https://streamable.com/ry8vsk

I enter the mall and get killed by a player scav crouched in a corner. Its like a 5man fight infront of idea. 2 pmcs 2 player scavs sure. Maybe a reg scav, but the dude crouched in the corner killing people - player. He killed me and it was a scav. A reg scav doesn't crouch in a corner like that. I only caught sight of him when i died unfortunately. <5 min crouched in a corner infront of idea. What can PMCs even do? What is this rat fucking shit map? Hope BSG fixes this shit it is absolute cancer.

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hairynip•

I've only been spawning in at 42 or 43

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KyleGGOP•

2 minutes into the raid - what a joke!

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stve30AKS74U•

Its tottaly bad right now. I went duo with a friend and we rushed ikea and there were 2 player scavs in IKEA already. We killed them, then we went to kostin \bizzaro we fought another scav and 30 sec later 2 pmc's and after 15 sec player scav were coming from the bathroom near bizzaro and through bizzaro. My friend died I killed 2 more scav players and all of a sudden there were 2 fucking more. We exchanged some bullets and I died FROM ANOTHER PLAYER SCAV coming from GERMANY side. About 8-10 scav players. Enough said ill stay away from interchange till they fix it. Not worth.

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q__________p•

ya i ran into oli and found a player scav looting it not even 5 mins into raid like WTF

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Og_Zapekk•

Yeah these ballistic suicide missiles are everywhere in interchange. And they come in like 2 minutes into the raid. Just after a small battle after spawning got rushed by 3 and it was max 4 minutes into the raid.

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NoobyPlayerMosin•

Lol gg rat on interchange.

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forgedinflame•

Yeah. It's a problem right now. Keep complaining and it should be addressed. You see all the people saying that this is fine? Just call them stupid or ignore them. It's plainly fucked up right now.

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mxe363•

well, reserve is dead, so its hard as hell to get a scav game in there, custums is poping cause of course it is n people dont leave as fast as they did pre wipe, so its not very safe any more, factory... honestly why would you even, shorline is snoreline even as a pmc and there are not really any uber chads to mop up and woods is still super new so hard to scav relyably. honestly interchange is the best map to scav right now (thus spawning in at 40-35 mmin as a player scav instead of at 15-12)

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Ayroplanen•

Interchange is still shit after their added extracts and "polishing" and BSG should feel like shit. Worst map in the game by far.

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bomsck•

It's not just interchange, I've experienced it on both factory and reserve raid after raid today. I'll bet the farm they have it cranked up due to the population increase right now to keep shorter q times without needing to add a ton of servers. Solo PMCs are really in a tough spot right now.

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JoJosNMustard•

Side Note, due to the frequency of killing/being killed by player scavs very early into a raid, like 3-7 minutes after it starts, I think maybe it's a hack to cover up their name so it just shows a scav name? iunno just a thought. I know I've never scav'd into a raid 3 minutes after it started lol

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Jellyfish-Direct•

I would normally entertain this theory but I generally only scav into interchange and most of my spawns are 35-45 minutes left on the raid timer. Its absolutely ridiculous. I don't want a full raid as a scav. I'm apparently back to factory until they fix this shit.

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ollie5118•

I scav interchange a lot but hit the stashes outside. I was shocked when I see that I'm in 5 minutes after it starts. I prefer to go in with 20 minutes remaining. Don't know why they changed it to go in early.

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geforce-jesus•

Oh no mummy where's my ten minutes of safe space to get into techlight - waaaaaaah.

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Qkeez•

I genuinly wish you to get head, eyes with 6,5 mm buckshot on interchange 2 minutes into the raid from player scavs and choke on those words.
Its not about the safe space, its about playing as a scav being absolutely no risk - and in this situation, very high reward. You get to compete with PMCs, often equipped worse than your scav is over the best loot

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geforce-jesus•

I prefer it if player scavs get to high loot first. I can kill scavs and take their loot. Whereas I can kill PMCs but can't take their loot because it's stuffed up their arse.

You've been spoilt for too long with an easy ride with predictable scav and PMC spawns. Now you're getting a challenge you don't like it. You're salty because you're getting fisted 1 minute in because you can't rewire your brain to understand that rushing to your precious highloot with a pistol doesn't work anymore.

I love dying head eyes 1 minute in. Long live hardcore.

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Qkeez•

Nothing hardcore about this experience but keep patting your back and telling yourself whatever makes you comfortable and feel above others while losing time due to a bad design in a video game.

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Denson2PP-19-01•

Gosh this take is so cringe this has nothing to do with hardcore lmao.

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geforce-jesus•

See you in Tarkov! I'll be the one head eyes-ing you 2 minutes in to the raid because you still think you're safe sprinting from spawn to your highloot zones!

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KyleGGOP•

The issue is the game design around scavs is to loot the scraps after pmcs are all dead/left the raid. They aren't supposed to be competing with PMCs directly. Spawning them in the mall before PMCs can even get there (though fine on its own) goes against that game design.

If the game had this as a desired mechanic i'd expect to see it on all maps. And it wouldn't even be that bad of a game change. I'd hope that player scavs had ammo nerfs though, and it would make face shields more reasonable to run. Also no mosin/sniper scavs. Shit is cancer. Scavs should be at a distinct disadvantage to a geared player if they're going to be competing head on.

I still think its stupid that you can have a 5 man of scavs ratting the center of the mall killing any PMCs moving into the map. IMO it needs to be addressed. Its fine if they can spawn on the outskirts of the map and move in like PMCs can, having them spawn ~5 minutes after PMCs do. Whats not fine is them spawning in the middle of the map, hitting crouch without taking a step, and ratting like every other PMC does. The map is already incredibly static and ratty. Player scavs spawning in the mall makes that 10x worse. The third parties are also absurd. You literally cannot loot your kills in interchange anymore and you MUST run supressed.

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geforce-jesus•

It's the same as having really good ai. Just imagine that all AI is as good as the average player and voila! People are just used to ai scavs being dumb and spawned predictably. People don't like how this disrupts their loot runs where they are accustom to knowing exactly where PMCs spawn and where scavs will be up to a certain point - which imo is lame. I'm getting bored of extracting with a full bag of loot. Give me a challenge. I love the new changes, I've been raping PMCs rushing into underground on interchange because they think they're only going to encounter 3 dumb bots!

Plus having everyone kill eachother off in the first 30 minutes is great if you're a slow player, bring water and food to last the full 40 and check your corners, and don't go stomping around like a spastic - world's your oyster looting!

Don't try to change the game. Change YOUR game.

Plus that's not true about scavs being the 'post action vultures'. Killa for example, has made interchange his home and base so.... Scavs own Tarkov. PMCs are the tourists :)

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labowsky•

Lmao what a cringe comment.

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