FBI, Homeland Security, White House Advisers Foresaw Possible Riots, Looked the Other Way
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newsweek.comPosted Jan 7, 2021, 3:34 AM UTC
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newsweek.comBiden needs to purge the shit out of American law enforcement. Like, daily quotas of people fired at this point.
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It isn't just the DoD and DoJ and DoT and DHS and DoI.
It is the "intelligence community" - and all their paramilitary appurtenances.
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Looked the other way is an odd way to phrase "actively encouraged".
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You mean participated.
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This shit was like the Lufthansa robbery in Goodfellas - they had support from the inside that made it all possible. This has been proven.
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That is super fucking obvious from what happened today. They didn’t care at all.
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It’s estimated that there were over 10,000 protesters arrested last year. Many for nonexistent or minor offenses. 52? 54? people were arrested yesterday for STORMING THE CAPITOL. Call me crazy but I’m seeing a little bias here. Edit: a word, take 2.
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Most were arrested for breaking curfew, less than half were related to the capital building
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13 if I read correctly. 13 people of the mob that stormed the capitol were arrested. Lol.
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Capitol, not White House.
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Yes, thank you.
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Capital is referencing finance.
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Lol, will correct.
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Just thought I’d FYI, have a good one
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Add Capitol police to that list of people who looked the other way.
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Prepare to be expunged from your jobs oh great Trump backers. You have permitted an unprecedented level of shame upon this country.
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Protests is nothing new, and has been going on for months and months now in the US. So right now I would be much more ashamed if I was working with security in the white house. How people were able to just walk in the door is mind boggling..
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The new AG is going to have a lot to do. I hope he is up to it.
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Let's hope he's still salty about getting fucked out of a sweet SCOTUS gig.
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Ok kids, it’s time for a a fascinating story called “Merrick’s Revenge”
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Sounds like he’s going to be pretty milktoast about it
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Just for future reference, it's "milquetoast"
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Has he said something that I haven't heard?
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Fun fact, Merrick Garland was a deputy AG in the 90s and prosecuted Tim McVeigh for the OKC bombings. It’s not gonna be his first rodeo with white domestic terrorists.
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Great, thank you for the information.
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The have a fucking app where they layed out all the plans to do everything they did today....for months. And nobody took them seriously?
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What app ?
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I know Parler was one of them. There's a subreddit called r/parlerwatch that has screenshots of all these guys talking about civil war for quite awhile now. I'm sure there are others. I just don't remember them.
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Parler
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What is Parler ? I’m a Canadian rube
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Imagine if Trump followers, conspiracy theorists, and racist bigots/white supremacists all started a treehouse club. That’s pretty much it. Now mix in some soccer moms and a bunch of guys who wear Oakley sunglasses
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i dont get it, i work with one trump supporter and he was telling everyone at work that this is going to happen. and Im in AZ. how in the F they were not prepared for this? FBI must have known....
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any idiot would have seen this coming two months ago and apparently they didn’t even give these cops pepper spray to hold the lemmings back
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Used it on in Lafayette Square, probably.
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FBI arrested people, they are not Capitol police, who answer as much to Republicans as to Democrats. The truth is, powerful people wanted this to happen and wanted the US to be embarrassed.
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Kinda what I'm thinking. Except not the US but Trump cult embarrassed
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I feel the same, like someone just said, "fuck it, let them make felons of themselves"
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Also great PR for the democrats. And I'm a democrat
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I bet it’s hard to see much out of the eye slits on those white pointy hoods of theirs
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No shit. They were instructed to look the other way.
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At least someone had the forethought to arrest Proud Big Boy or Grand Boy or whatever they call him. Imagine if that mob wasn't led by a meth head dressed as a buffalo.
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Proudest boy?
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tail wagging intensifies
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Using the definitions first laid out by the Bush administration on what a "terrorist" individual and organization is or is not - Donald Trump and the GOP/Republican party, in light of the past four years' actions, including today, along with their words and policy - make them, in fact, a terrorist organization.
If they are being aided and abetted by other departments/organizations, such as the FBI and DHS, then again, using those same definitions, they would be terrorists organizations themselves.
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All complicit. Treason. Period.
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Morbo is pleased.
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Pleased, but sticky.
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Lots of people getting paid not to understand what they're seeing.
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it’s like Russia over here
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For those of you that noted that despite plenty of advance warning of a major demonstration, the Capitol police and other units were lightly deployed and largely stood aside and let the pro trump folks in:
Yes it appears they did and in hindsight, it was probably the only smart play there was to make, Presuming this was intentional and not accidental as I would prefer to believe.
Why did they elect to stand down, you ask? I'm going to tell you.
By doing so, they took all the air out of the protesters sails and effectively reduced the act to that of kicking an open door. Which, except for the giant WHOOSH of air, is silent and largely invisible. It is not deadly.
The goal of the demonstrators (whether they themselves knew it or not) was not to occupy the building or ransack a few offices.
(IMHO) it was to start the ball rolling down the hill that would result in something that looked bad enough on TV that the chief executive could declare martial law. Because that gives him emergency powers and can not be reviewed for 6 months - not even by Congress.
Had capitol police FBI, Homeland and all the folks we saw at the BLM protests showed up, armed to the teeth?
Then a couple pipe bombs blew?
Then a few molotovs got tossed?
Then a bunch of vehicles got lit on fire and then some small arms fire?
Then the tear gas cans start popping.....
The Capitol buildings would have ended up on fire and the front steps of Congress would have turned into a war zone and they would have gotten their 'as seen on TV' moment.
And we would have been on our way to hell right now.
Instead, they let them come in and jump up and down and chant and after about 30 minutes of that - you know what? they got bored.
I'm not sure even now Trump is sincere in his promise of an orderly transfer. It's most likely his 30,000 and 1st lie of his term and intended to deflate the folks who would demand an immediate article 25 hearing, or his resignation or otherwise walk him out of the building and onto Marine One now. Right now.
I for one, will not breathe easier until he is on that aircraft and on his way to the airport.
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Ok but...
They let them in with cable ties, Molotov cocktails and at least one pipe bomb while the capitol was in session.
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I hear your concerns, but I agree with the op. If they fire upon them when they are outside it’s a whole other can of worms. A big can of worms that ends up making the United States look worse than it did. In the end they treated it like a parent would a tantruming child in the grocery store, you allow it to happen and wait it out. Having said all that, there needs to be followup with a lot of arrests all over the country.
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I think the secret service will be all over this. In my opinion they will not want a repeat and will request large unscalable fences around the area. Water cannons would be another good idea. Wasn't "The Beast" a response to the JFK shooting? This time it was a bunch of MAGA nutcases, but you can be sure that ISIS are taking note.
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I agree with this. They should have put out those new style fences I've seen that have metal plates connected to them so they can't be tipped over by people alone. I could absolutely see more Federal buildings getting the White House treatment, starting with the Capital and Supreme Court.
And to be fair... I'm pretty sure that ISIS trying this would be met with full force from the jump. I would imagine the officers were instructed not to escalate the situation with force.
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Yes, and as terrible as that was, IMHO - it's a fraction of what could have been had responders used the playbook previously used over the summer at say, the BLM protests squared off to do battle and deadly force at the outer perimeter. Then it escalates as it always does and the crowd goes batshit crazy We've seen pictures from the summertime and the BLM protests of what looked like and this crowd was expected to be an order of magnitude larger and the real estate is what it is.
Sure, some windows got broken and they jumped up and down on some vehicles but the level of mayhem did not rise anywhere near it's potential despite all the media screaming.
My fear was that they would torch the entire site (or the false flag ops people embedded to escalate the situation).
But because the situation remained relatively calm, capitol police and other units could keep a good eye on things The pipe bombs and other devices that were there to amp things up were removed from the scene. In most of the clips I saw, I could spot obvious and not so obvious LEO's and various agency folks mixing with the crowd freely and were inside the building with them because the confrontation for the most part never became violent, they were able to operate inside the perimeter freely and provide intel instead of being on the outside looking in.
They knew who the public leaders were and also monitored anyone they might have judged to be an actual threat. Real operators can spot a real threat at 1,000 yards on a flatscreen. From 10 yards they get to select which way they are going to neutralize you and how much noise you are going to make.
I remain convinced that if the situation had escalated any further, an order would have come over the comms and just like that - the people deemed to be most dangerous all get rendered inert in 10 seconds flat.
The problem is - AS A GROUP these folks were primarily aligned with the current CHIEF Exec so again, another reason, stand back and watch the crowd and ID the real evildoers and stalk them. If they pull a coordinated move like turn on the crowd with weps, then they respond in kind directly and only to the threat. It's not an original story. They train for this.
I'm waiting on the full public news report, play by play and maybe a commander that steps up and says "here is what we did and why" but in light of the fact that they damn well knew this was coming, and yet this was how it played out, and it could have been so much worse, at least optically - leads me to believe this was the plan.
The agencies could have turned the Capitol into a scene from escape from New York but in the clips I saw, they were fighting/wrestling over those silly 3 foot tall barricades that a child could kick over, not anything remotely close to what they bring in when they seriously want to keep people out.
They could have put tall fencing for the outer perimeter with razor wire and armored vehicles with machine guns and grenade launchers at the inner. They could have had choppers, drones and fighters running air patrols. I am convinced they did not want those optics nor the results of running that playbook. They could have lost the city, not just the complex.
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4 people died in the "anticlimatic action" you're describing. Our entire legislative branch was put in danger. And the terrorists are using this lack of response as tacit encouragement.
Social media was full of death threats to specific law makers. How does weakening security to let the people who made those threats closer to them make any sense at all? That doesn't diffuse the situation, it makes it more frenzied and harder to control. I'm not saying they should have showered lead on the MAGA terrorists as soon as they stepped foot in DC, I'm saying they should have followed Standard Operating Procedure and prevented violent mobs from getting to the building. If they wanted to protest peacefully in the street then fine. Let them. But have the people on hand to deter the exact situation we saw yesterday, and thank God it wasn't any worse. They certainly were trying to do more.
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4 people died in the "anticlimatic action"
Yes, and as terrible as that was, IMHO - it's a fraction of what could have been had responders used the playbook previously used over the summer at say, the BLM protests squared off to do battle and deadly force at the outer perimeter. Then it escalates as it always does and the crowd goes batshit crazy We've seen pictures from the summertime and the BLM protests of what looked like and this crowd was expected to be an order of magnitude larger and the real estate is what it is.
Sure, some windows got broken and they jumped up and down on some vehicles but the level of mayhem did not rise anywhere near it's potential despite all the media screaming.
My fear was that they would torch the entire site (or the false flag ops people embedded to escalate the situation).
But because the situation remained relatively calm, capitol police and other units could keep a good eye on things The pipe bombs and other devices that were there to amp things up were removed from the scene. In most of the clips I saw, I could spot obvious and not so obvious LEO's and various agency folks mixing with the crowd freely and were inside the building with them because the confrontation for the most part never became violent, they were able to operate inside the perimeter freely and provide intel instead of being on the outside looking in.
They knew who the public leaders were and also monitored anyone they might have judged to be an actual threat. Real operators can spot a real threat at 1,000 yards on a flatscreen. From 10 yards they get to select which way they are going to neutralize you and how much noise you are going to make.
I remain convinced that if the situation had escalated any further, an order would have come over the comms and just like that - the people deemed to be most dangerous all get rendered inert in 10 seconds flat.
The problem is - AS A GROUP these folks were primarily aligned with the current CHIEF Exec so again, another reason, stand back and watch the crowd and ID the real evildoers and stalk them. If they pull a coordinated move like turn on the crowd with weps, then they respond in kind directly and only to the threat. It's not an original story. They train for this.
I'm waiting on the full public news report, play by play and maybe a commander that steps up and says "here is what we did and why" but in light of the fact that they damn well knew this was coming, and yet this was how it played out, and it could have been so much worse, at least optically - leads me to believe this was the plan.
The agencies could have turned the Capitol into a scene from escape from New York but in the clips I saw, they were fighting/wrestling over those silly 3 foot tall barricades that a child could kick over, not anything remotely close to what they bring in when they seriously want to keep people out.
They could have put tall fencing for the outer perimeter with razor wire and armored vehicles with machine guns and grenade launchers at the inner. They could have had choppers, drones and fighters running air patrols. I am convinced they did not want those optics nor the results of running that playbook. They could have lost the city, not just the complex.
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I agree with you. It was, thank God, anticlimactic. Instead of clashing with them they just allowed the tantrum and then they ran out of energy. The end.
They looked kind of sad and pathetic, actually.
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this guy coups (or anti-coups I should say)
Most of the other folks that have commented are not operating at this level.
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Dude they were planning this shit on voat a month ago.
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My dog could’ve told you this would happen.
And my dog is actually smarter than a lot of these people so that doesn’t hold much weight I guess
I am so angry at this. How much money do we spend on "security"? How much treasure? We don't have universal health care, have crappy education, can't solve the climate crisis, but we have lots and lots of money for DEFENSE!
But it looks like today a few hundred hooligans could have decapitated our government if they'd wanted to. When both houses of Congress were in the same building on a day that we knew an insurrection was likely.
And now we have plenty of footage to show the next group of people, who may actually want to murder Congress, how to get it done.
This is shameful.
Please understand that the reason the “security” failed today is that they themselves were enablers. Had the proper authorities wanted to, they could have engaged these terrorists in much the same way they do against minorities or left-wing protesters, despite the fact that the violence is almost always perpetrated by the right. What was allowed to transpire today would never have transpired had the crowd not been pro-Trump.
If it isn’t abundantly obvious, America (and American law enforcement in particular) has a serious problem with racist/fascist ideology and right-wing propaganda.
“If it isn’t abundantly obvious, America (and American law enforcement in particular) has a serious problem with racist/fascist ideology and right-wing propaganda.”
Yep. Nailed it; heads will be rolling soon in the capital pd.
Homeland Security needs to be abolished. They've let themselves be turned into brown shirts to carry out any violent urge of the president*. They've been involved in so many violent attacks on BLM protestors all over the country. They're rotten to the core and have to be abolished. And ICE needs to be abolished with them for the same reasons and more.
That was their design all along. US Military can't be used on its own people so 9/11 was used as an excuse to form and fund "Homeland Security". It's hardly more than American Gestapo.
I beg anyone to show me where H.S. has saved the U.S. from foreign attacks.
Let's not forget that they have been planning and discussing this event for weeks on social media including Twitter. We know they can step up to the plate as they have oh so well demonstrated during BLM protests.
So, the only logical explanation is that they chose to do lax today. The non response was entirely intentional.
There will be investigations on this shitty response.
In the meantime, I have to believe the FBI determined these were unorganized idiots who would dick around taking selfies for a few hours and had no real plans. They weren't worth the body count a proper response would have provided.
FBI made arrests prior to the event actually even happening, up to and including the proud boy's leader. The best time to stop a terrorist attack is before it happens. They probably were counting on Capitol Police to handle the rank and file.
Maybe it was the police equivalent of senior skip day.
Isn't this lone survivor stuff with less Kiefer.
These cops go home every day and watch the same shit on TV, on the internet, and on the radio that the MAGA insurrectionists do. What do you think they’re gonna do?
You've never heard of the Military Industrial Complex?
In before "NPR iSn'T REAL JoUrNaLiSm, iT's pUbLiClY fuNdEd"
We could help diabetics not lose their limbs with that security money.
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Sussa good boy
She’s a black lab and a good girl for sure
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