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nachof

Discovery themes and season 4 prediction [minor spoilers]

Spoiler

I think it would be fair to say that seasons 1 and 2 were a lot about Michael

Season 3 is all about the Burn.

Which means that season 4 is going to be about ham.

It was always there in the name.

Posted Jan 8, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

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Fenriswolf_9•

i support HAM - hot Asian man Lt Gen Rhys.

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alkonium•

TOS and TAS had Sulu, Voyager had Kim, Discovery has Rhys.

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Mechapebbles•

TNG had... Admiral Nakamura?

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derekakessler•

Hubba hubba.

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FumilayoKuti•

DS9 and Enterprise had Hot Asian Woman. Keiko and Sato.

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alkonium•

Keiko was also on TNG, but wasn't a main cast member on either show.

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Neither is Rhys.

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dembonezz•

There'll be some parallels with Enterprise, as Discovery reunites the Federation after so long.

Also, I'm hoping we see more character focus of the bridge crew.

Aside from Tilly and MichaeI, I can scarcely remember anyone's name, let alone recall any real details about them.

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beredy•

Saru, Georgiou, Stamets, Culber, Book and Adira should've stuck with you too. I really don't understand these "I don't know the name of people from Discovery." crap as all named characters pretty much get mentioned at least once in an episode where they appear and all have gotten their own little stories. The rest are still greatly underdeveloped but we got 8 crew members having a lot of story this season.

Y'all that you only remember Michael should go to the doctor ASAP.

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dembonezz•

I meant the bridge crew - the folks we haven't learned the backstory for.

I guess I'm just looking for the type of character development a 23-episode season would afford. They've really packed a lot into the thirteen episode seasons, and there totally wasn't room for more. Not a dig or a slight, at all.

But yeah, I'd like to know more. Like how or why Detmer has that ocular piece, or literally anything personal about Rhys, Owosekun, Bryce, or Nillson or even how Ariam came to be.

FWIW, I've really enjoyed the ride this season. I totally don't want to join any chorus shitting on this great series.

Cheers.

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alkonium•

Like how or why Detmer has that ocular piece

Probably a severe injury during or after the Battle of the Binary Stars.

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Lady_Hydra•

exactly, she doesnt have it in ep 1-2 but has it on disco. she was injured at BotBS

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Smuttly•

I believe she literally has cuts and shit on her head during episode 2.

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mtb8490210•

I think the cause of the problem is Detmer, Owosekun, and Airiam really popped. Like Worf, though technically a main character, they demanded our attention though a mix of casting, costuming, and blocking. Anyone standing behind Saru for example might as well not have a name. The men on the bridge are just kind of there. Who cared when Detmer killed the Mirror version of that one guy? The answer is no one because he never popped once.

Season 2 Culber, Stamets and Lorca demand our attention as the audience, but the other doctor and Culber in season 1 are just kind of there. Any version of Georgiou would be noticed whether they were wearing a ridiculous crown or not because Michelle Yeoh has star quality.

If Detmer, Owosekun, and Airiam weren't such home runs of visual designs, I don't think anyone would care. The actresses themselves may not demand our attention in inferior costuming/makeup or if they were dispatched to nether regions of the bridge, but their final designs were home runs.

This kind of stuff matters. Take the various Game of Thrones cameos. One stuck out like a sore thumb. Humorously wasting Mac from Its Always Sunny is funny. An ad for Ed Sheeran came off like an ad for Ed Sheeran with the lingering shots of Ed Sheeran when other people were speaking in case you didn't notice it was Ed Sheeran because Ed Sheeran is a celebrity.

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LewisMcGrady•

I think you have a point since I'm not even sure who Nillson is. Is she the blonde one they keep focusing on? Apparently she was the original actress for Ariam but had issues with the makeup so they changed actresses and gave her a new role, but I don't remember them ever actually introducing the character so she could be Nillson

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techno156•

Yes, she is. I believe she was introduced last season, after Airiam's departure, although it was a unexceptional and brief 2 second intro, so not surprised if you missed or forgot it.

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choicemeats•

More that they (and myself) would like to see characters who are around for the long haul get some time. Saru is “gone” (not sure what his role will be). Georgiou is gone. Book and Adira just got here. I thought the enterprise transfer would be a thing but she’s gone. Airiam of course is gone. S1/S2 captains are gone. Not to mention Ash Tyler. A few mediocre characters and a bunch they wanted us to get invested in and didn’t even last very long

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admiraltarkin•

I said basically this same thing much more delicately in Daystrom and got massively downvoted. We actually have a lot of characters in Disco. The truth of the matter is, Owo, Detmer, Bryce and Rhys aren't major characters similar to Chief O'Brien in TNG especially pre season 4ish

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mtb8490210•

Since Strange New Worlds is rumored to be more episodic with creature of the week stylings but freedom to have more time to do a single story (I would love a remake of TNG's First Contact; I think its a very good episode that could have been great with more flexability.), I think to provide balance Disco will have an overarching story. I wouldn't be surprised if its similar to season 4 of Ent, encountering known races sans bottle episodes.

A resurgent Dominion. Not a direct conflict, but worlds asking for Dominion "order". A capitalism descending into fascism, kind of thing as governments the UFP can't reach fall and so forth.

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SpontyMadness•

Honestly, at this point, I think we'll see the fall of the Federation, or at least Admiral Vance slowly corrupting it. He was a stand-up guy in S3, but that line in the finale to Michael about not needing to do things properly (I'm paraphrasing) was a little suspect. Or it was just a hackneyed way to get Michael in the captain's chair.

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ekolis•

Suspect? Kirk was the exact same way; he was just never criticized for it for various... reasons.

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Official_N_Squared•

Im hoping for what Enterprise should have been: laying the foundations for The Federation.

It was great when it did do that in S4, and taking it out of the prequil context frees up the narrative

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Saltire_Blue•

I think next season will be about a new “golden age” of the Federation being established, Starfleet back to it’s original mission of exploration

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yorcharturoqro•

I think will be more convincing that planets to rejoin the federation, and some confrontation with emerald chain and other minor powers in the galaxy.

And maybe a war for the main dilithium source.

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SirBillPetre•

Strange New [Steamed] Hams

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PhilCB7•

Exploring strange new localised Aurora Borealis

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Rickford_of_Cairns•

At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Entirely localised in a pay-monthly streaming service?

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fivechickens•

I see you too are a victim of YouTube's algorithm-du-jour.

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Eurynom0s•

Rum ham?!

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codename474747•

Why is there smoke coming out of your warp core, Lt?

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smoha96•

At this century? In this quadrant? Localised entirely within your sector?

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NonViolentBadger•

I predict more crying

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ascaria•

AND more “I love yous”

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merrycrow•

So... is Shatner going to be in it?

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CheesyObserver•

I'm gonna go ham if he ever returns to Star Trek.

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Eurynom0s•

Well they're making her Kirk apparently with the "I don't believe in no win situations" line.

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IPman501•

The guy is almost 90, so no, probably not

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[deleted]•

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sankers23•

At some point Borg, Dominion and Klingons have to show up

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ekolis•

Much as I want to see what happened to the Borg... wasn't there some story somewhere in which they got wiped out by the "Calivon" or something like that?

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Rickford_of_Cairns•

"Yes Rico, Kaboom".

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themastermatt•

A mysterious probe threatens Earth (now rejoined to the Fed) sapping power from all systems and preventing escape. The only clue is a repeating signal from the probe "Ester is here". Throughout the season we escalate to finally boarding the probe and the revelation that this probe was sent by a race believing they had been invited after receiving a garbled many century old message sent around 1990 from a HAM radio operator on earth inviting his friends over for Easter dinner where ham will be served. Two episodes will be spent with Michael grappling with her trauma of being unable to cook real food with replicators offline and ends with her and her mother racing against the clock to provide Easter Dinner for the probe and avoid the one thing that could spell disaster, BurnHam.

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RiaC-81•

The Ham. And the threat to The Ham that is..........Linus 🙃

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nachofOP•

I would be totally on board with a Linus-centric season.

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Ewokitude•

In all seriousness, I hope season 4 involves the Klingons again so we can kind of come full circle from season 1 and see how their society has evolved.

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gosh-josh•

Now that Georgiou has lost her taste for Kelpian, she’ll be cooking a lot of Tellarite

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Random_182f2565•

I want the sphere data to have a new cool body.

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ekolis•

You just know someone's gonna sleep with it.

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Random_182f2565•

Just like Data

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Byzarru•

season 4 is going to launch another show

season 3 launched section 31

season 2 launched strange new worlds

season 1 launched discovery

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NickofSantaCruz•

the temporal wars

During season 4, as Discovery reunites the galaxy together in the New Federation, the crew discover more time-traveled refugees scattered about. Michael suspects a shadowy organization, probably a division of the Emerald Chain that went rogue after Osyraa's death, has been violating the Temporal Accords for nefarious unknown purposes. Those suspicions are confirmed when Discovery finds a colony of Suliban on a distant world and there meet an elderly human claiming to be Jonathan Archer.

edit: to be clear, I don't want to see this idea happen. Given what Discovery has done the past three seasons, this was the first thing that popped into my head as treadable ground.

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sankers23•

Id happily never see the Emerald Chain again.

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koolaidface•

Oh god no please. Let’s get stories about the characters we already have.

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CheesyObserver•

I am perfectly fine with more Scott Bakula

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cwatson214•

He was a likeable captain, a reasonable captain...

UNTIL THEY TOOK HIS DOG

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Immadownvotethis•

Take my upvote, you p’tach.

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TrapperJedi•

petaQ* Get it right, SoHvaD nojtaHghach Ha'DIbaH (you filthy animal)...

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Disturbed_Goose•

I want more exploration of not just former federation allies in their new forms but also new powers technology and species that were undiscovered or unheard of in the past

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codename474747•

She should end up in a timewarp to 21st Century earth, meet another human who liked to lead and go FAST, get married to him and compound their names

Micheal and Lewis Burn-Hamilton

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ekolis•

Or maybe they go to the 17th century and OMG WITCHES!!!

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-LEGO-•

This is quality r/ShittyDaystrom

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ThronesFan123•

A new temporal Cold War which means we get cameos from all previous series.

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thephotoman•

Someone get Shatner on the phone.

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fahadaljufairi•

I would like to see the return of Jason Isaacs somehow, perhaps he somehow made it into the present during the temporal war or stuck in the Mycelial network. Lorca was easily the best part of season 1 and brought something different to Star Trek.

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nachofOP•

Lorca deserves a spin off series.

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More references from past shows for new viewers to clap at

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