Pelosi announces lawmakers will be fined $5,000 if they bypass metal detectors to House floor
thehill.com/homenews/house/534165-pelosi-anno...Posted Jan 14, 2021, 2:51 AM UTC
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What is so hard about simply removing those people from the building, you know, like they do to literally everyone else in every other building in the country.
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Right. If my child walked into their school building with a gun, they would be swiftly removed and taken straight to jail.
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How can they even be allowed to bypass security in the first place? As you said, if this happened anywhere else they'd be thrown out. Time for everyone, even elected officials, to follow standard safety protocols.
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Another commenter elsewhere here nailed the reason why, although it's debatable whether or not that reason holds water for something like this. Lawmakers are, ideally, engaging in an absolutely essential and sacred service to the country. I hate that word "sacred" to describe things like this, but I think it's accurate toward how their role is viewed. If an elected official wishes to go in and vote on a piece of legislation, their ability to do so trumps a lot of other considerations.
That said, reasonable safety and security measures like this should not be up for debate. If you find yourself unable and unwilling to do your duty as a lawmaker without a gun in your purse next to you, then that's a you problem as far as I'm concerned.
It's very sad that we have elected members of congress legitimately concerned that one of their colleagues might be crazy enough to bring a gun into the chamber and potentially use it. But, unfortunately, that's where we are at.
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That's bullshit. Congress has/had dress code requirements to be on the House or Senate floor. If a woman has to wear a blouse with sleeves in the House, these asshats can be required to walk through metal detectors.
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The dress code would very likely be bent if a particular congresswoman insisted on being allowed to enter in order to vote even though she was wearing something out of dress. They might be later fined or whatever for breaking house conduct rules, but they would not be barred from fulfilling their duty. Keep in mind the rest of my comment, though, to note that I do agree that it's bullshit in this case.
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Its funny they perceive voting as a sacred right for themselves but the same people will turn around and make it as difficult as possible for black communities to vote.
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There are house rules against carrying guns, they've been flouting them, one even posted video of her carrying there to show off and try gain support from other MAGA gun nuts.
This is why they've been avoiding the detectors, and that's before even suggesting they may be accused of something far more insidious than wanting to protect themselves.
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Oh, definitely. I don't think anybody is under any illusion that they are avoiding the detectors on principle alone. They're avoiding them because they are carrying, and they don't want to be told not to.
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I don't know if you noticed, but the ability of the Capitol Police to keep people that shouldn't be in the building out of it is pretty poor.
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These stupid fucks will enjoy purposely racking up their fines. They will boast about them on twitter. Just watch.
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They will be taken out of their paychecks.
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Yep which means they can’t offset them with campaign donations.
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Lol, you think the small paychecks they get actually matter to these millionaires more than grandstanding to their constituents?
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The fact that politicians have paychecks that large is a huge part of the problem.
EDIT: 99.99999% might be a bit excessive but its still a big fkin problem
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I’d pay them more if it meant they worked for my best interests instead of lobbyists
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Seems like the amount of money they make is inversely proportional to the care they show to our wants and needs.
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And the public will come back with humiliation. If kindergarteners can follow basic rules, why can't you? If you can't be trusted with basic security measures, how do we trust you with classified materials?
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theyll gofundme these fines.
remember that dude who got mad at trump and demanded his 2.5 million back?
wealth inequality got this country a bunch of low class rich people buy insurrection
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That's serious money for the GED lady.
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$5,000 is an amount that a lot of lawmakers can just sniff at, but Boebert (the pistol packing crazy from Colorado) definitely can't afford that.
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not as an operating expense, but someone who benefits from her being a distraction might throw her some no effort gig to balance it
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Like russians
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Aren't there gofundme-like sites for crazy alt-right people where she could just fundraise for people to pay her fees?
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Insane. You shouldn't be able to bypass them. That's the entire point of security.
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Imma do this at the airport. I'll let y'all know how it goes.
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Lol. Watching closely for a follow up!
But you're exactly right. It's no different. It's not up to individuals to decide to comply or not. Don't want to go through security, no problems. But you can't come in.
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Narrator: "...and he was never heard from again."
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Nice.
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I would have added at least one more zero to that figure.
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5k is nothing to these tools, their donors will be flocking to pay it.
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Republicans, you are why we can't have nice things.
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How bizarre that this is even an issue!
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Well, this is America.
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It’s pathetic that she even has to do this. My guess is that most, if not all, of the Democrats honor the requirement, and that the Republican/tRumping ass kissers do not.
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$5,000 for the first offense and $10,000 for the second. The fines will be deducted from lawmakers' salaries.
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double for each offense and let them walk into the building again everytime they refuse, like in kindergarten. Gotta find some way to refill the coffers...
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Breaking News: Sensible and effective action from the left seen as high treason, abuse of office and violation of 2nd amendment by the right.
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As they attempt to cover up their actual seditious behavior
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So for $5000 they can bring in a weapon? Once they do that (and it could be several weapons for the some $5000) what's stopping them from leaving the weapons in their office or other places so that their cohorts can obtain and use them against Democrats (and the few courageous Republicans) who voted for impeachment.
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Dems could ask that everybody breathe while on Capitol grounds and Republicans would hold their breath just to own the fascist, air-breathing libs.
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Okay, so hear me out. I know that this is going to sound crazy, but what if we just didn't make metal detectors optional.
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Haha...fuck you, Boebert.
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Looking at you Boebert...
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Nancy ain't playing games.
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Fuck that, capital police should arrest them for trespassing.
I wanna see one of these fuckers try that with TSA at the airport.
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Great! Nobody should be able to bypass security measures. Period.
Exactly, why is it an option?
Republicans are too entitled to show their palms and bare feet.
It's more than that. They are continuing to incite violence deliberately.
I don't want to out myself as a popular political influencer but there are a few members' bare feet I wouldn't mind seeing
Ben?
"Rules for thee but not for me"
Because they’re required to be there. If they’re not allowed in they can’t pass laws, etc.
They are allowed in, if they walk through the metal detector. Thousands of schoolchildren in the U.S. do it every day, I’m sure they can handle it also.
Congress does have special laws that allow them to bypass police. They aren’t in the same class as school kids.
They know what they need to do to get in, if they cannot get in it's their responsibility and no one elses
So required to be there that there are/were dress codes? I think walking through a metal detector for safety's sake is more important than wearing a blouse with sleeves.
She got stopped and because they couldn’t continue with the vote to certify without all members present she got allowed in without being checked. Weird yes, but that’s what happened
Pass laws? I completely forgot that's what they do, it's been so long
They have to follow standards to be there. For instance, there’s a dress code. This is just another standard, and it’s less onerous than a dress code.