The Expanse Aftershow Season 5 Episode 9: Wes Chatham, Ty Franck & Nadine Nicole
Posted Jan 27, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC
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This is the best aftershow so far, wow. Clarissa is my favorite character in the series because I relate so much to the idea of growing past mistakes you made at a time when the world seemed narrow, at a time when you were single-minded. I find comfort in seeing my own personal journey reflected so well in a fictional character. Accepting that the mistakes I made don't define me, that I can honestly appreciate the change I've gone through and accept the growth that has led me to becoming a different, better person. Every step of her journey has been fascinating, and Nadine Nicole kicks ass in the role.
They explored her character in the show and this aftershow so well that I'm on the verge of tears. A+ storytelling my guys. Just fucking fantastic.
Edit: ALSO THE MANSION IS THE SAME ONE FROM THE GOOD PLACE??? A show literally all about the fluidity of good & bad, about people's propensity for change and improvement. What the fuck. That's... that's some insane meta mindfuckery right there.
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Yeah who did she play on the Good Place? Just an extra or something more that I’m just not recalling?
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They're talking about the mansion.
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From what I understood I don't think she played anyone on Good Place. She just watched the show.
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Ah that makes sense, the way she worded it made me think this was her second time at this location
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FWIW. Ty and That Guy are going to continue having a podcast about the show, after the season. https://youtu.be/uSwTGKBFwkY
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I wanted to ask about that! Did they just start the podcast this season? I went on the podcast website and there's only trailer there.
Edit: oh wait I just went there again and there's info that the podcast launches on February 10
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Is there going to be a Wes Chatham Show? I would be the biggest fan.
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So glad to finally see Nadine Nicole on the aftershow, she's such a sweetheart.
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Herself and Drummer are way different out of character.
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Cara Gee is a very close second to Stephanie Beatriz for "most unlike their character in real life"
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Cara Gee is so incredible at displaying her emotions just through her eyes and facial expressions... and then you add in the Belter creole accent and it's just divine.
"How much shit do I have to eat before you treat me with some respect!?"
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I agree, it's so impressive how much she can convey without words. To be fair, it's usually some variant of "righteous anger" 😂
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Absolutely! She has been a favorite of mine since the beginning. I miss seeing her power in season 5.
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Which character is acted by Stephanie Beatriz?
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She plays Rosa in Brooklyn 99.
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Yup. My partner insists that the Stephanie Beatriz we see in interviews and the one playing Rosa cannot be the same person
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I really liked the part at the end (31:30) where Ty opens up about how he learned from his past. This is very telling about why everyone in the show is different shades of good and evil.
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Yeah, that was beautifully expressed. Ty had replied to me on Twitter a long time back when I had complimented how well they had captured Prax and his daughter and their relationship and his pain when she was missing despite neither of them having kids of their own and he said that so much of writing is about empathy (I'm paraphrasing here).
And that really shows in the way they write their characters, especially with Clarissa as he talks about in quite some detail in this show.
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I’m now curious to know what he did to end up in jail
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He said that a version of himself wound up in jail but not this version, and then he talked about making decisions and realizing what the consequences would be if he’d chosen differently. I think he might have been talking about stuff he did in his past that was bad or illegal but not that he necessarily ended up behind bars. Just that he understands regretting your actions that seemed so right in the moment.
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He was basically saying that he can imagine that under certain circumstances he might have gone in jail
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He didn't.
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He's saying looking back on his life he recognizes crossroads he's been at where he could have very easily taken the other path which would have lead to him being in prison.
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I got into the show and watched it all until I caught up to episode 5 of this season. This aftershow has been the methadone to the heroin-like binge that came before, lol.
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Slightly off-topic, but I have an inkling that Clarissa may take Alex's place as the pilot of the Roci next season. She knows how to fly, Amos likes her, and I doubt she's too keen on heading back to super-ultra-mega-maximum security prison any time soon.
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Hard to imagine Holden letting her pilot the ship as soon as she gets there. The only reason he let her stay was because she was Amos’ responsibility.
After the events of season 6 though I could see it.
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Yeah you make a good point. I can see them starting S6 with some issue that requires the Roci to be somewhere in a hurry and Alex not being available.
Amos will suggest Peaches and he'll put the hard sell on Holden like "her past isn't that different to mine and you let me stay here, plus she was my surrogate moral compass when we were on Earth" or something.
So she gets thrust into the position and proves herself to be a capable pilot from the go, with bits of character development throughout the season about how she's constantly trying to atone for her crimes.
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You do know the show is based on books right?
I recommend them wholeheartedly.
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I recommend them wholeheartedly as well.
But with Alex being written out of the show and all, the on-screen crew of the Roci is going to be forced to diverge from the books.
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I was thinking it was going to be bull.
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it's toss up whether he makes it through this season
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I realized I had not been clicking "like" on these videos. Went back and did them all...may be the first YouTube videos I've actually done that for.
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I should go do Spacedock, too. I love those.
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First aftershow episode I've watched, but I'll be watching them from now on.
Cute silver lining to the pandemic video-call world we live in.
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How long as there been an after show????
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Since the S5 premiere!
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Ty and the Other Guy started this season but Sci-fi Channel had an after show that was so detailed. I’m guessing Chad took that spirit of that show and created this after show.
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It's actually "Ty and that guy" which is far more appropriate, given Wes's character. :)
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Wow, how did I never realize until just now that’s how they meant it...
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There's also a round table interview after show that's only available via the X-Ray Amazon prime feature, and I can only see it on my computer or phone, not my smart tv
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Amazon owns the world but can't make a TV friendly streaming UI to save their lives...want to catch that last bit of dialogue? Have rewind on for more than 0.0001 seconds and you're a full 2 minutes back. Want to rate a show? Nope. Recommendations? Completely random. Now I hear there's missing content too?!
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Since the start of this season, they've been posting videos every week.
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Ty's comments starting at about 32:00 are so spot-on, when you make a bad choice that feels right in the moment it really does haunt you with self-doubt about every decision you make after that. Definitely why I empathize with Clarissa. These episodes are great, hearing Ty's insight into the characters will sometimes make things I couldn't articulate suddenly click into place, and sometimes it's just nice to hear the affirmation of my own thoughts. I wish these were longer!
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Amos is a mood
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Love this show! Looking forward to watching Ty and That Guy for season 6!
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These aftershows have been the best part of my week for the last weeks. I look forward to them as much as the actual show episode.
Anyone else find the last ten minutes with Ty discussing Clarissa’s character and dealing with and living with one’s mistakes cathartic? Man I teared up.
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Such a great episode! I need to get the missus hooked on this show! Wauw!
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I love how everyone just uses their real accent in the show
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Except for Belters ke? But we can forgive them for dat. I love their accent. It's not an easy accent, so full marks to everyone. Is it bad I actually like Cara Gee with her Belter accent than her normal one? :D
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Damn i gotta start watching these more, always forget about them.
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Haha! I loved that they addressed the ep 6 growl when Clarissa attacked. Funny!
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“You think I should ask him about it?” Eric - “I wouldn’t recommend it.”
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Wes Chatham's back must be hurting with how much he is carrying this season.
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"Where'd he find you?"
^("Serving a life sentence for multiple homicides.")
"She kill all those people remind me not to piss her off"
Wasn't it "I'm gonna be a lot nicer to her"?
Yep you are correct checked it
she killed all those people with her bare hands
I though that line was kinda cringe. a simple wide-eyed look from Erich's female hench-person would have been better. Expanse is awesome, buddy-cop movies are awesome but Expanse is not a great place from lines that you'd expect from a buddy-cop movie.
Since they were doing that whole sequence in one shot, it might have been quite awkward to pan the camera to Hutch just for her reaction in the middle of a fast paced action scene. Generally, when we the audience think "they should have done that", the crew on set probably already thought about it and determined it didn't work
Also, that was almost definitely the absolute longest single shot in the series. They probably spent multiple weeks storyboarding and planning it. It's almost a certainty that "should we show someone reacting to this?" came up at some point.
Not 100%, but it sounds like something that would get mentioned.
fair enough. i just didn't like the line. it felt out of place for the show IMHO
Her delivery was hilarious. Love her character now!
Yeah. When Erich asks why Amos calls her Peaches. "I don't know." And I was thinking, she never questioned Amos about or seems annoyed by it. All her delivery has been good this season.
Um, Melba...Peach Melba...Peaches.
I'm not ashamed to admit I'd never heard of Peach Melba until googling why the fuck he calls her Peaches lol
Absolutely
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This episode had killer lines.
Sure did