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PSA: There is no such thing as "Cardano Giveaways". Look inside for basic security/safety tips.

Safety & Security:CardanoFoundation:

"If it is too good to be true, it probably is"

Yup. Always has been that way, especially in crypto where anonymity is a thing and transactions are not reversible. Unfortunately scammers also know this and are exploiting various way of tricking people to acquire their funds.

And the thing is, some people are simply too naïve or greedy no matter how many times we warn about such things. Our safety messages have more or less been on repeat since we've spotted the first persons with malicious intents.

Let me be very clear about this;

  • We or any of our partners will never hold giveaways, even if the event looks genuine/real. The scammers are actively hacking YouTube channels with lots of subscribers and copying websites designs to look genuine.
  • Officials, Moderators and Ambassadors will never DM you offering help (and yet again) even if they look like the real ones.
  • Always download Cardano related software from trusted sources and double (no wait, triple!) check the URL or source.

NOTE: Yoroi is available as a mobile app and a browser extension. Daedalus is a full-node wallet only and no mobile version is available. If you see a mobile Daedalus being promoted it will be fake and a scam. Only download from official sources. Click here for Daedalus and here for Yoroi.

I think this quick rundown covers most of it. If you're a newcomer certainly also check out our Cardano - Getting Started and Cardano Stay Safe Content

If I have missed something feel free to leave a comment below.

And remember, stay safe!

Posted Feb 4, 2021, 10:14 AM UTC · edited

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Astramie•

I wish the wallets had safety tips for beginners. We need more direct help in wallets, where most ada users will likely see important messages, versus on scattered channels.

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VastHistory•

Hopefully, after it happens over and over they'll wake up.

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revzman•

those of us who have played EVE: Online know the Jita ISK Doubler Scams all too well

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dirkclod•

The day I can buy ADA with ISK i will be a happy man

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lodobol•

Landed here from a notification in the wallet.

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Astramie•

Yea I noticed it yesterday, that’s really good to see!

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EphemeralMorals•

I'd like to see a dummy system for wallets so that new adopters can practice without risking their money.

Just a thought.

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ThatDudeDeven1111•

yea like an easier way to get onto a testnet

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etnfrank•

We should write a catalyst proposal for a scanner that scrapes social media for these scams. It could capture the related address and store it in a list of scam related public keys. Anytime someone tries to send funds to an address on that list they should get a special warning that links them to a video that explained how the scam works. We have to protect the least informed members of the community. They are often new people who aren’t familiar with the risks. This is a last stop effort to educate and inform.

Also, just implementing a way for the community to report these addresses and verify that they are scam related would be a great feature.

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That is an interesting project. An effective way to flag the bad guys and a sign that this community really cares about their coin holders. I suppose that also gives more credibility to the coin.

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sjatkins•

Sounds a bit like boil the ocean to me. How complex is it to just train people to refuse free something if you send something of value, ADA or whatever, in? I certainly don't see it as this or any communities responsibility to find all such and heavy handily watch all spends and warn people. I would consider that monitoring and "keeping me safe" a paternalistic anti-feature personally. Don't we get enough of that from companies that want to keep us secure by limiting what we can do on our own devices and phoning home to double check?

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etnfrank•

Tracking addresses that are used by proven thieves and reporting it to the community doesn’t seem like boiling the ocean to me. I would equate it to harpooning the man eating shark.

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I would certainly make it similar to the little nice lock in the topmost corner of your browser. That will also give you a warning when trying to go into sites without proper certificates, which could be a a sign that the website has been hacked.

So a nice warning, that can be omitted and ignored if wanted, but it would sure be nice to help new and non-techy people to use the future of technology without getting scammed, wouldnt it?

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ladiesman1776•

I was close to almost falling for an ADA giveaway scam on YouTube the other day. It was this fake live stream by CH and a website link to a scam site called adaprize. Com. It looked shockingly authentic and was extremely well made by someone who has clearly put a lot of resources in to scamming people. Be careful!

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Obvious_Error_9354•

Anyone with half a brain knows this would be a scam? I don't ever go for anything free unless its from the official website.

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the "official website" is the problem for newbies isnt it though? With the website they were just introduced to, is looking a lot like an official website.

I mean, the deadaluswallet.io, and the cardano.org as well as the https://cardanorust.iohk.io/ and just iohk.io are all offical cardano related channels right?

I am a newbie and well, genuinly interested on how to spot the "official" sites from the fakes in the scammy world of pre-worldchanging technologies.

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I am afraid there is nothing we can do. The only thing we recommend is to file a police report.

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I saw these commercials advertised on youtube in my recommended feed and they were live with a video of charles and an overlay on how to give away ada to get double back.

With youtube working as an editor with their selective censorship of content, they have a duty to not pass on scams like that. Perhaps sue them and a channel that hosted the video (whose host is awol for sure) and attack the deep pocket of google. If it is small enough maybe even they settle to avoid fighting it out.

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Gather some evidence if you can. In particular evidence that ropes in a party with some money like youtube.

Then it's lawyer time.

Good luck.

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saintwood23•

Same thing happened to me from that video..when I track the address the scammers wallet was 300 thousand ADA by the end of the day it was high 900’s...many other people got scammed as well

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After I lost my Ethereum I saw the Cardano videos. I tried to warn through Reddit, but my post where either removed or ignored. No one seemed to care, but we all should,

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gorg222•

I've frequently seen similar videos about ETH. Send insane amount of ETH and recieve 2x back as "air drop".

It didn't felt realistical, but I get one can be into idea it is some promotion idea to boost interest.

There often is also ad on our local scammer and he was actually once in TV studio interviewed as an expert for internet scams saying that people should not believe claims of assured gains. And youtube video with that TV report is interrupted again with AD with this guy! :-) with him offering assured gains and throwing around sentences about fiat money making scheme, etc. (but that's nothing new). Who as I've learned is selling some "cheap" videoseminars about how to get rich in crypto or to posses some of his useless cryptocurrency Kauri, or both.. but something like that.

His video ADs are very frequent, so I guess lot of people fall for it, having that much money for ADs.

https://browsingwithoutanadblocker.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/kauri-crypto-yet-another-dubious-cryptocurrency/

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SolipsisticEgoKing•

Same here. I'm devastated. That was a lot of money I just pissed down the drain. Fuck.

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get_murk3d•

Im so sorry that this happened to you, but if it makes you feel better I lost an ungodly amount to the same person that you did :/ I just wanted to reach out and let you know I suffered through that too.

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SolipsisticEgoKing•

Sorry to hear that. It does make me feel slightly better knowing I'm not the only one, but I feel awful knowing that so many people have been scammed that we're finding each other on reddit to commiserate together. Very sad.

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Cardano or ethernet?

We all should get on a thread to force Youtube to place mechanisms that prevent such videos and track the stolen assets.

I have tried everything, but I am told to say goodby to my 3 ether. I am sure there are ways to get that back...

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SolipsisticEgoKing•

Great idea. If enough of us demand change from YT, they'll eventually listen. How do we organize, what do we say, and how do we say it?

Ouch about the ETH. If it makes you feel better, I lost 11k ADA. Tough lesson to learn, but a necessary wake up call so I don't make a bigger and dumber mistake in the future.

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get_murk3d•

I responded to your earlier comment without reading further down the thread. I have the same outlook on that as well. Im not going to lie it stings a bit still, but this is therapeutic for me to relate with people who lost the equivalent amount.

I think there is certain karma (not reddit) for people who scam like that. I wish you the best and stay strong!

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Aww that is painful. 11k gone like that...

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w0w0x•

I have even seen these scam videos as YouTube advertisements that play before watching videos on legit crypto channels

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Mcgroggins•

can you guys sticky this? A lot of people getting ripped off.

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AndreasHeOP:CardanoFoundation: Cardano Foundation•

It is included in the message Automod instantly posts to new topics

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ThatDudeDeven1111•

and it's linked to the Daedalus wallet...evidently, I mean, that's how I meandered in here.

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silaslanguk•

I have great faith in this community reported such scams. I just clicked the YouTube links to report and they've already been removed. If we all spot the scams early and report it may nip it in the bid before more mass adoption.

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FreshieSikh•

Had one of these appear as an ad before a legitimate video.

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SL13PNIR:CardanoAmbassador: Cardano Ambassador Moderator•

Yes, the fact that youtube allows scams in ads is disgusting really. They're being sued by Ripple and Steve Wozniak for the scams.

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It's been removed. Good work!

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Who would give away these shiny ADA coins?

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largeprofessor777•

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Best of luck my lovely ADA

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bluexblue2•

There is a SCAMMING channel called 'Cardano Live' in youtube with over 500k followers! We should all at least report it there

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Why dont you put a Daedalus app on the android store to lock out scammers that just directs users to download the desktop version?

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WiddleWhiskers•

This is a great idea. And perhaps the icon itself could say “All Daedalus wallets on store are fake” so the user can see it in their search results.

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Hi .right now on youtube going on a live video by Charles Hoskinson telling to participate we just need to send 5000 to 1000000 $ADA to the contribution address and they will immediately send between 10000 $Ada to 2000000 $Ada. I definitely know it is not real .I just want to mention to others .

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asgcryptoboss•

I fell victim to one of the ADA scams, giveaway. I was not thinking. I have been saving my ADA tokens for 3 years now. Please can anyone from the team support me please. I would be forever forever grateful.

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BlueVeinMangler•

Maybe these scammers need a good old fashioned dick slappin from the Blue Vein Mangler

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ADACOSTA25•

On daedalus it promotes voting for cardano projects with catalyst voting and the then receiving rewards, is that not safe?

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MonkByte•

I'm also wondering the same. I already signed up for it and am worried

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