It's been almost a year since prebans got added to RTA. During this time I think we got decent amount of meta heroes released or buffed.
Do you think it's time for SG to increase amount of prebans?
Posted Feb 5, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC
It's not like your team size increased
Actually what they should do is give us 3v3 RTA.
that would actually be quite fun. However, in a 3v3 format, it will almost be all tank vs tank.
why we skitting around the real endgame?
1v1, Arby only, no items, Final Destination.
April Fool's game mode. Exactly as you say, but they both have MLDB.
Basically a really elaborate coin toss.
Just give each player a lvl 5 npc carbuncle, true content
Who keeps level 5 Elena's?
I'd like this as a means of testing GW teams. As is you bring a fodder who might still contribute dual attacks or something. Plus you can't mirror match heroes to test things which also sucks.
I was wondering if there shouldn't be a limit to classes you can draft, like, no more than two characters of the same class (I could say even one, but maybe that would be too limiting especially with a ban), so we can at least avoid the full knight cancer (not that you can have the same kind of cancer with Ruele, TSurin or warrior bruisers, but still).
nah, it just delays the problem, not resolve it. It'd be better to
a) do a universal ban list (maybe even an artifact ban list too) for a season if people are worried about variety. this will rotate per season.
b) introduce a special mode of RTA that rotates every season (or half season). one season could be no ML5's, one can ban all thieves, etc.
c) do what other gachas often do and rotate a "bonus stats" week for certain heroes. encouraging use of heroes who are outclassed normally. It could even be "bonus mechanics" like the automaton tower devices. devs can also use as ways to test out a buff without committing to it.
I am not opposed to this, however they would need to be careful with how they approach this. Increasing the number of pre bans is almost like punishing newer players. Something like this could probably only be implemented at higher ranks?
No, hell no. So an F Lidica player can ban Elena and Politis and leave you completely fucked? Or Arbiter Vikdred players can ban ML Haste and TM Luluca and be completely unchecked?
"Just ban those two."
And deal with multiple others I now have less options against if they're ever drafted because the bans will change with the players and I'll never know if they have Cerise or Arbiter Vikdred and having two guesses to work with works against me because they can shut down any counters to a third person I'm not expecting.
Overall, it's just bad. It's a two way street with bans. Makes it easier to avoid specific characters while making it harder to deal with any you're not expecting/dealing with via bans.
they should change it from preban + ban to select 6 chars and ban 2
I think we should have rotational global bans. So the season meta can be influenced that way.
Yes 4 me, increase to 3 per person. Imo, rather than "force" new player to use meta hero. It would be nice to see that meta hero get banned n everyone use the hero that they like. I preferred more fun n variety than sticking to this stagnant n toxic meta. People keep spam same hero over n over again, making the gameplay solely about winning n not having fun. That what missing from E7 for years, n the new automaton tower got praised from everyone cuz it is "fun". Increase the no. of banned to 3 which rotates per week n plus 1 more ban from player choice. It would be nice to see Elson in rta.
No, Itll only hurt new players, top rta players already have over 80% of the roster so it wont really matter but itll screw over master and below players when people figure out their best units
sure, lets just preban 6 heros, totally not gonna fuck stuff up /s
Wouldnt increasing prebans only discourage newer or more casual players from playing? They would have built some meta characters to stand a chance in rta but more prebans would only increase the chances of having their more reliable units banned. Just my initial thoughts.
That's an unfortunate side effect, yes.
The thing is that when more and more heroes get release, they will eventually have the similiar purpose as existing ones. Meaning that 1 preban is making less impact on a draft.
An example of competetive game that increased ban amount over the years is Dota2. Of course we cannot just compare game where you have all characters to a game that needs you to get characters first, and then build them. That's the problem you pointed. Because if their strong hero is banned all the time, they won't be happy as it will definitely limit their options.