Not wondering whether it's "right" or "would change anything", just wondering how many actually feel that they just about could.
Posted Oct 29, 2011, 7:13 PM UTC
If I lived somewhere like Iran, where there is really bad oppression, yes I would. In the UK, no way, we have it pretty good in this country.
In the light of the recent demonstrations/vandalism (whatever people call it), do you think the majority of citizens in the UK share your views? That the UK is a too comfortable place to live to be the object of revolution, I mean.
Well we had some riots which was more opportunists smashing up a few shops and taking stuff. After that the vast majority of the country agreed with the government's stance on being tough with those people, and it's quite rare for the majority to back the government. So yes, I think the vast majority of this country are content with their lives and would feel lucky to live here if half of them bothered to learn about how bad things really are in other countries around the world.
I feel like I would be prepared. It would have to be something that I truly agree with though.
Do you feel that there would need to be an "official agenda", or would discontent with some current state of affairs be enough?
Depends. I would prefer an official agenda, but if we somehow became a police state, or shit in general just got bad, then the agenda could be established later.
fuck that shit, I bitch when I stub my toe I don't want bullets anywhere near me
What if they were aimed at you?
I would be capable, but I see no need for it in the current state of my country (USA) generally I suggest peaceful movements before acts of violence.
I would, but that's just because of my current state of anomie (think i'm using that term properly, grammar/sociology nazis correct me) and really doesn't have too much to do with the current state of the US.
That's a useful word I didn't know of! You bring up an interesting point though- do you think that a revolution based on sheer discontent, without specific political direction other than tearing down an unjust system, could be justified?
I'd take part in it. I'd love to help the military beat down some smelly hippies.
You and me both, Comrade.
I would if it was for a good cause
And if it was just aimed against a bad one?
Yes
I'll get my cost and saiga 12
I don't mean right NOW! These things need to be planned. Discussed. Blogged about. Opined on. How else could we televise it?
I think most people (Americans) who would say yes to this are probably kidding themselves.
Why do you think that? Just curious, really. I think most people who were/are partaking in the current Middle Eastern revolutions felt that they would under no circumstance do it either, until it actually began. Are you/we (americans/westerners) different, too docile?
Revolutions are spawned by truly dire circumstances, abject poverty, desperation and such. The spoiled and pampered citizens of the US are nowhere near that point. Sure we'd revolt, but only until it was time for our coffee break at Starbucks or our favorite TV show came on.
I don't live in the US, but it seems that a pretty large portion of your population isn't spoiled or pampered, at least not anymore. The reason I'm asking is because I feel that the global political and economical situation has many similarities to the conditions the world was in just before WW2, and that we may just stand on the brink of either revolution, war, or both. Trying to gauge what direction it's leaning towards.
They most definitely are spoiled and pampered. My father grew up during the great depression, the poverty he experienced quite literally molded his life. The present circumstances in the US pale by comparison.
I disagree that dire circumstances are necessary. I think the key is popular anger that is harnessed by a capable leader. My main concern would be that our ability to own weapons has been so limited that the military/national guard/police could easily slaughter the people that revolt.
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We've got it too easy. Our situations are not anywhere near as bad as we make them out to be. We will give up in the face of adversity.