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dotaut

Skyrim stutters me to death

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since my upgrade from a 1080ti to a 3080 skyrim is killing me. Outer environment got worse than on the 1080ti. Even if I get my ms down to 8 (with super low res) I still get a shit ton of never ending red bars. And if I turn on asw I get a shit ton of pink dropped frames. Even in 60 hz mode I get non stop red bars. I know bout crappy nvidia driver but I got rid of that problem in my other games. Skyrim is just extremely bad atm for me. Give me some tips? what am I not seeing?

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ryzen 5600x 3080 16gb 3800 ddr4ram

hp reverb g2

Posted Mar 13, 2021, 11:38 PM UTC

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Incognit0Bandit0•

No expert, but I've seen a lot of people talk about how the rtx 3000 drivers are shit for vr right now.

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dotautOP•

I know but for me other vr games run better while Skyrim is sucking ass

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Kasamuri•

I have a 3070 and skyrim and VrChat sucks ass for me. its even worse than on my old 1070

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gpkgpk•

FYI: Currently there is still a driver bug that may cause VR stutter/lag if using monitoring tools turn stuff like Afterburner/FpsVR. This may or may not be the cause of your issues buth worth a try. OTOH I think I saw some mentions of HP Reverb issues in some VR subreddits, might want to dig around a bit.

Afaik last update from Manuel@Nvidia on the issue:

Manuel@NVIDIA 11d

Hello everyone. I just wanted to check in and provide a brief update. Our goal was to target the final changes for sometime in the R465 driver branch time period, preferably earlier than later. The work is still in progress so I cannot commit to a specific date at this time but this is still a very high priority task for our team. Once the work is completed and the QA testing phase begins, I hope to have a better ETA for everyone. Thanks again for your patience and hope to share more information with everyone soon.

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Trianit•

ok bro, i have also ryzen 5 2600x 16gb rtx 3080 and g2.I bought all of that to play in skyrim requiem in vr.what ss do u have in steam and in skyrim game? any mods? My fps is ok with out any mods for graphic, with 100ss in steam and full ss in skyrim game.. Not 90, but 40-70, with 60hz mod stability 60. With mods + not playble with that ss.. but i love how skyrim looks like in g2 with 100ss. I have more questions about fallout 4 in vr.. picture looks like a shit, and performance also.

to be honest, when I bought the rtx 3080, I hoped for the best perforamnce in games.
mb i should to install old drivers?

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dotautOP•

I would say u mby bottlenecked by ur cpu. I did upgrade from a 3600 and even that bottleneckEd my 3080 in most vr games. But Skyrim is just bad for me. On my 1080ti I played on 75% res with luminous enb and could get 70 FPS and played with asw just fine all day. With my 3080 it doesn’t matter what I’m using ... it always runs the same. If I turn asw on I get huge stutter and with it off I also get stutter. I think I have to reinstall it some day...

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YaCantStopMe•

Im on a 3070 and my game is running like crap too. I cant figure it out. Ive talked to people on 1070 and 2070s that get better fps than me. I think the 3000s series is bugged.

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Pixogen•

I have vr ultimate installed 160% resolution like 4kx4k and im getting 90 fps pretty solid on my q2.

2070s 3600 at 4.2ghz Something has to be up.

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Trianit•

what about ss in game? 100% (min) or 200%(max)? q2 have same resoulution like g2.

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Pixogen•

Its like 38XX x 38XX or something. Whatever the Q2 resolution is. I run it at native. I only have a 2070s.

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Comfortable_Cat5699•

I think the quest 2 only runs one panel though right? So its similar to 2160 x 2160 per eye on the reverb g2 which is 50% resolution.
At 100% the G2 is something close to 3024x3024 per eye.

Even with that in mind. I have a 3080 and can't run the vr ultimate essentials at 90fps and 50% resolution ( 2160 x 2160 per eye ) on the g2. Iv had to make my own mod list to get a consistent 90.

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Pixogen•

Q2 is 1832×1920 per eye G2 is 2160 x 2160

Your 3080 is almost twice as fast as my card if not more than that. I've got the wabbajack mod pack thing. It says 524 mods. It's over 100gigs.

Runs smooth man at 90 low frame timing and hardly any studders.

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Drenababy•

I upgraded from a 1070 to a 3070 and get the same problem :/

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granlich•

I had a 1070 and moved to a 3070. Although the fps got better, I was having crazy stutters. Looked everywhere, reinstslled everything, but in the end it was iCue and other software for controlling leds running god knows what and using minimal cpu rrsources, but enough to make skyrim stutter like crazy. Only had to close them.

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dotautOP•

Yeah I closed every background monitoring and other software long ago cos of nvidas driver bug. Still that did not improve skyrim.

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ShadowRam•

My Skyrim looks great on the 3080, no problems or stutters,

The issue is walking/running.

The player model is acting like they are walking up stairs, but instead of a bump upwards, there's this jerky forward motion every step.

It's driving me nuts. It used to be a nice 'smooth' walk. But now it just stutter walks.

I don't feel its a video card related issue, nor a controller issue.

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EchoTabWMR•

That sounds like the same issue i have and probably OP too, every second or so the image lags a bit when your moving? I call that stuttering.

Check fpsVR and see if you have red frametime spikes. Its noticeable when you look at the waterfall in main menu too for me at least.

What i did is lower steamvr supersampling to like 60%, that along with motion smoothing got it a lot better and it doesnt look that bad either as im using this openvr_api which makes everything sharper. Guess you could lower the maximum framerate too to curb the issue. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/48934

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ShadowRam•

I think I found it.

Disabled the dynamic resolution and it's gone.

I think the jumping in and out of that state, and that was the stutter.

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EchoTabWMR•

Thats good, i just saw this and made me wonder if it works for Skyrim or could be modded to work for it

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44768

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Swollenpajamas•

Is your RAM set up correctly? Double check your RAM speed is actually running at 3800.

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dotautOP•

Yeah it is with infinity Fabrik 1:1 and hw Info gives me no whe errors. My other games also run better.

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Pixogen•

I mean even at 2600 it's not gonna kill his performance.
Even looking at benchmarks between cheap ram and god ram is very little difference in terms gaming.

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Swollenpajamas•

“Very little difference?” Something as “little” as a 1ms hit actually does matter (well, if you were pushing the limits of your timings already). SkyrimVR and normal gaming are two different beasts.

Turn off XMP and don’t use a multiplier and see how you repro. Wrong setup can affect performance. It affected me on a 3700x/RX5700XT/16gig-3200Mhz. I’m running at 90hz though (repro when <90FPS) and I don’t know what refresh rate you personally use, but wrong setup murdered my performance causing constant red bars in areas where I wouldn’t normally exceed 4ms. I’m not talking hypotheticals. Seeing constant red when you know your rig can handle it has personally happened to me. Considering his rig specs, his SkyrimVR shouldn’t be doing this. Hence my suggestion.

I don’t care about random gaming benchmarks much unless VR is looked at since that’s all I game in (and more specifically how SkyrimVR benchmarks). Sure it’s good for comparing individual PC parts to each other but what I rather hear about is how timings were affected and subsequent FPS comparisons in Whiterun, Solitude, and Riften, and also in normal wooded areas where typically NPC scripts aren't running.

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Decapper•

Make sure you have maximum performance set in nvidia

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Comfortable_Cat5699•

You are getting red bars on the gpu with 8ms frame times? That doesn't sound right.
Are you able to take a screenshot of the graph?

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TheGudu•

I have a 3080 FE, 5800x, and with a handful of mods (Vriks, HIGGS, SKSE, etc.), I get great frames with 200% resolution on an HP Reverb 2.

I don't think it's the drivers, or your chip...you might have something in the background causing those spikes.

No offense, but Skyrim VR isn't GPU or CPU intensive, so without more information, I could probably say it's not your hardware (unless you didn't update drivers) and might be something else causing those spikes.

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Trianit•

with 200% ss u have great frames? Do u have any graphic mods installed? can u record the video please

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TheGudu•

Yes, I get great frames. It's Skyrim, not Crysis, this game can run on a potato.

I use the mods I listed. No specific graphics overhaul, so I still run at great frames, 90+. Even with graphics mods, people are running on lesser hardware at much higher super sampling.

And what would recording anything do? Plenty of professional content creators showing you plenty of mod installing, also stating its not hard to run at higher SS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzYYxtMTAVU

Even the first comment he states:

"All of these mods were running like a charm on my i7-6700, gtx 1080 and 16GB of ram. Supersampling at 1.4 and pretty much no frame drops! The game is very light (of course) so don't worry at all if you wanna exaggerate!"

And that is with a 1080 and 6700. I can probably do 300% SS with my gear, but you don't see much improvements over 150% or 200% SS.

Again, I think you might have something else going on, but who knows.

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EchoTabWMR•

Its bad for me with a 3060ti too, there were a few times where i had completely stable 90 fps for some reason but most of the time im getting stuttering every second or so, fps goes between 60-90 all the time and when i look at fpsvr it says theres a lot of cpu frametime spikes. If you can lower refreshrate of headset you can try that as a temp workaround till its fixed, or lower steamvr supersampling like i did which made it a lot better. Ive tried a fresh install without mods but there was no improvement, tried closing every program too

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