Government and bedrooms
It is very common to hear the following phrase in the modern political discourse: "It is no one else's business what two adults do in a bedroom". With the clear implication that the government should not regulate sex and reproduction in any way; that it is a private business of individuals.
Yet those same people, for some reason, do not apply this reasoning to many other types of private interaction between individuals. When I negotiate a job contract with a potential employer, it is exactly the same thing: two adults figuring out a private matter. Why is this anyone else's business but the two involved adults?
As such, I propose a better, more comprehensive slogan:
"It is no one else's business what two adults do in a bedroom. It is no one else's business what two adults do in a courtroom. It is no one else's business what two adults do in an office".
Is this too radical a notion?
Posted Mar 14, 2021, 8:16 PM UTC
Who are you kidding they don't even stick true to that with regards to the bedroom. How many people do you know who use such a phrase and support legalization of prostitution and other forms of sex work?
I don't quite understand. How is supporting the legalization of prostitution inconsistent with saying that the government has no business what goes on inside the bedroom? Those two notions seem consistent to me. Are you talking about decriminalization vs. legalization?
He's saying the people who would use said phrase would likely NOT support prostitution.
Ah, I see, that makes sense. Thanks.
Well that wrong, pretty much all leftists I know support sex workers
Yeah, it is naive to expect intellectual honesty.
I've completely given up on most people being intellectually honest or logically consistent. Most people only spout the ideas that sound good to them without much thought of the full implications of those ideas or, even worse, they just verbatim recite what the TV/internet man they like said.
The same folks who would say this also want the government to keep gay people from marrying. Even the notion of marriage licenses alone is an abomination.
Sure that's one example but plenty who support gay marriage will also say it and the be disgusted at the idea of legal prostitution.
You can say the same thing about incest, even more so. And they use the same kinds of bullshit excuses to justify it, about society and whatever, that have been used to argue against things like gay marriage. The only excuse I've heard which I can say holds any merit is the risk of having children with birth defects, but even when there's zero chance of that happening (e.g. if they're the same sex) people still tend to be opposed to it. It seems the world at large still hasn't realized that widespread distaste of a practice can't magically make it someone else's business.
that’s definitely where being against legislations which ban certain sexual situations gets really grey, because of course you want people to be able to be free to do what they want, no matter if it makes certain people uncomfortable. however, i’d propose a good negotiation to this conflict would be that it’s okay as long as the incestuous relationship doesn’t result in offspring, as that can violate the potential child’s NAP by intentionally subjecting them to a life of cognitive/physical disorder.
That's true of people with numerous genetic defects, not just relatives.
Do you ban any one with a genetic defect from reproducing?
Ie Eugenics?
yeah, that crossed my mind while i was typing that out, lol. overall, people can have babies with whoever they want, but possibly they’d just have to deal with those consequences of having to care for children with genetic defects if they just can’t stop themselves from simply adopting or something. banning reproduction outright is bad in any case, but that doesn’t stop it from being cruel to knowingly bare a child you know will have a more difficult life. hope that makes sense
I find most. Isn't that consistent with the above statement?
All of them? Just about everyone I know supports legalizing it.