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r/GlobalOffensive•
Axolyn

Will they nerf Deagle eventually or not?

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I'm not gonna go around with the numbers because I'm lazy, and everyone watching competitive CS (or/and playing at high level) just knows how this pistol is incredibly overpowered given it's price, but it feels like it's been like that for so long now, that I wonder, will they nerf it at all? And if so, how could they nerf it?

The meta of forcebuys is clear because of the firepower of the Deagles, not much secret about it, but imo it's killing the fun of the force ecos.

It's so much more awesome when a team's force buy envolves a hero ak, for example, or pistols like tec-9/cz/p250, and with grenades they are forced to do a much more delicated strategy, I believe it envolves much more good prepation, execution and skill. Haven't realize until now how much those Deagle round wins doesn't offer anything fun imo, ofc there are many amazing Deagle players that can put up more impact overall, but in the end, you just stack your team with a pistol that's able to body down players with 2 shots and that can do the job for a price that's a bit too cheap.

The Scout for example seems like a ranged Deagle in some ways, with no auto-fire and great mobility, but at least it's harder to use, and stacking a team with that gun doesn't work anyway.

Posted Mar 25, 2021, 4:26 PM UTC · edited

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nikbebecusG2 Esports Fan•

Honestly the biggest problem about the deagle is that it's too good at short range to the point where it almost renders shotguns obsolete.

Reducing the deagle's damage so that it doesn't kill in 2 body shots would be nice.

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Keksmonster•

Decrease base damage to 45. Decrease damage falloff to compensate at range.

Give it 1 hs kill at all ranges, 3 shot to the body at close to midrange, 4 shot at long range.

Maybe improve the recoil time a bit to compensate to make it less spray and pray and more controlled at closer ranges considering you need an additional bodyshot now.

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-PootedFnatic Fanatic•

IMO the body spamming desperately needs to be nerfed. The fact that you're rewarded for spamming the stomach with a $700 gun is nuts. You can get 70+ damage for a body shot against an armored opponent like wtf

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MrSnow87Gambit Esports Fan•

Wtf i thought it was like 63 in stomach with armor

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Jonsson95•

That's to chest (1x dmg), stomach is 1,25x base dmg so 78,75 dmg.

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whatthefuckistimeTeam Liquid Fan•

Deagle fills the role a shotgun should at this point and with a shotgun you also almost have to aim for the head too, it's dumb and it should be nerfed for body shots in both close and long range with maybe a increase in accuracy

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Jonsson95•

It's like shotgun but it also does more damage on long range, same or more at mid range, less on short range and it can be spammed faster. It's cheaper than any of the shotguns and it's more versatile and better on most situations. At it's current state I feel like it should be more expensive than nova, sawed-off and mag-7 but less expensive than xm1014. You basically get 1400$ weapon at the price of 700$.

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m4j0r1c47Death Sentence•

in no universe do i think deagle needs to be nerfed

if anything, i think its a good idea to rework the r8 into a viable alternative to deagle, make it have 8+16 bullets instead of 8+8, remove the rightclick and leftclick option bs and just make it shoot normally like every pistol, take deagles damage and accuracy numbers, slap them on the r8 and just ever so slightly increase them so that you can 2 shot body shot from a bit further than deagle, i believe deagle can 2 shot body shot from like 5m or 6m, make it so r8 can do it from 10m but at the cost of having only 8+16 bullets, 100$ more than the deagle and maybe a slightly slower firerate than deagle

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AxolynOPFaZe Clan Fan•

I think making the R8 an alternative to be a good idea (just not the solution imho), but they should make you be able to choose between either pistols while buying (like, you know, they should have done years ago) to implement this, and do the same to the M4A1-S, same thing.

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sirobelec•

The Deagle shotgun debacle...

No, I can't go for some plays with a Deagle that I can with the XM. I've been able to single handedly destroy three Ts in connector on Overpass, AND print some money on the way. Close range I cannot fully rely on Deagle's RNG spam accuracy, where I can with the XM.

Also, the XM can literally give the enemy a heart attack when they hear it and panic.

I've noticed for me Deagle is more efficient on close to mid range with quick peeks, and more often than not I still get rekt by an AK one tap.

idk, it's okay as it is for me.

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Keksmonster•

The Xm also costs 3 times the money.

The faxt that the 700$ deagle is even in the discussion against the 2000$ xm shows how op it is.

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sirobelec•

Is the scout OP when you can wreck a fully bought up AWPer who spent 6k on the weapon, armor and nades, for 1700$? Is the 5-7/tec9 OP when you can 1shot kill at close range with it and they are a bit more accurate than a deagle AND shoot faster to boot, for less money than deagle?

Is the HE grenade OP when you can stack em for 300$ per player, nade a choke point and steal guns?

Maybe I'm a bit new, I also get annoyed when the enemy gets a kill because I didn't clear a corner properly or walk into a trap I knew could exist.

But I can do the same to the enemy.

For me, Deagle is sufficiently RNG as it is and if you know how to counter it, the enemy has no chance. If Valve nerf it, gotta be careful to not make it as useless as the R8, if not for the sake of gameplay, for the sake of money, some deagle skins are as expensive as rare AWPs, and if they make the weapon useless, the skins become useless and cheap, they lose money. :D

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Jonsson95•

Less base dmg 63->37 but also less dmg falloff 19%->7% so it will never be 2bodyhit kill and 1hskill is still about same distance. Also fire rate could be nerfed from 266.67->250. Since now it's much harder to spam recovery time could be lowered 0.81->0.71.

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Jonsson95•

Base dmg has to be less than 40 for it not being 2hit kill to stomach. 40 x 1.25 = 50. So dmg could be 39 intead of 37.

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Keksmonster•

2 hit to the stomach isn't such a big deal imo because people generally aim for the head even at close range so double stomach is kinda rare

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Jonsson95•

https://twitter.com/caspercadiaN/status/1377938168662659072

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Jonsson95•

No! Because it's 2 hit to body people don't aim for head anymore since it's much easier to just 2 hit body kill. We need to make it 3-4 hit to body kill so people start to aim to head again.

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