NEW: Richard Tice is *not* standing in the Hartlepool by-election. He will instead be on the ticket for the London Assembly when the candidates are announced at 4pm today. He took a quarter of the votes in Hartlepool in 2019 - this will be welcome news in Tory HQ. https://t.co/vOUbSYB3he

Posted Mar 30, 2021, 11:00 AM UTC

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LabourTCBLabour Member•

I saw a tweet earlier today that this was because the Reform Party had a local candidate lined up?

Obviously don't know how true that is, but that's what I heard.

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YoyoeggrockNew User•

Not good news if that’s the case, have greens decided to field a candidate or not? They were 7% on the poll done and so could be a big factor.

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Mister_RiskNew User•

Green Party member here based in the NE who lurks on various party subs.

I've received various emails about the by election. They absolutely intend to stand from what I gather yet at the same time they seem to be a lot more focused on local elections in the region and making breakthroughs at that level.

As a side note, I fully expect Anne Marie Waters' party to stand after she moved to Hartlepool a while back.

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CipherTeshOPCustom•

I really wish we lost this seat in 2019

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Ranger447He/him, Give me PR or give me death•

Why?

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BoyWithADiamondSwordSocialist•

So Starmer wouldn't come off as less electable than Corbyn.

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Ranger447He/him, Give me PR or give me death•

He wouldn’t anyway, loosing one seat we’ve lost the majority of the vote in for years is not comparable to giving Labour its worst result in a generation

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SurestAsceticNew User•

YouGov just had Starmer's Labour polling worse than Corbyn's Labour's 2019 GE result...

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potpan0"Would to God that all the Lord's people were Prophets"•

2019 was the worst loss in Labour history, at least that's what supporters of the leadership have repeated for the last 15 months to justify every position taken by the current leadership.

But if Starmer is losing a seat that we retained in our worst ever loss, while at the same time polling lower nationally than we polled in our worst ever loss, while enjoying a much more favourable press wing and party environment... then what does that say about his leadership?

No wonder supporters of the leadership would rather we lost that seat in 2019.

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AnyalesGreggs Pilled•

Would you say the 2015 was a a generation ago? Maybe 2010 you could say that for but we did worse in both those elections.

Its the worst result since Corbyn became leader would be the accurate way to put it.

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ArditiDelPopoloOfficially sick and tired of everything•

Not exactly the best start though is it? Like, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Tony Blair losing any Labour seats during his time as LOTO.

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CipherTeshOPCustom•

Then we wouldn't be having a no win by-election. Its clear from that MRP last week that there is a swing of around 3% to the tories in areas which had a high BXP vote but areas in the North which had lower BXP vote shares there was a decent swing to Labour allowing us to have some impressive gains. Even if we hold this seat, there will be a swing to the tories and the narrative post the by-election may not be representative of the actual picture happening across the Red Wall.

But when I say i wish we had lost this seat - im saying it with the almighty power of hindsight.

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