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Coach_Xav

Soloqueue is going to be extremely boring.

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Soloqueue will be even more homogeneous and boring that the current ladder is already. So yes, you will be able to play the game instantly, but do not expect diversity.

Some classes, especially off meta ones really need a specific comp to shine and be able to compete with the most OP specs.

Example in 3v3 :

- Enh sham: Super strong in turbo, extremely average with anything else.

- Feral: super strong in jungle, average with anything else.

That means that in an environment where you have no control over your team comp, you are just going to get stomped over and over again by the FOTM classes because your team comp will not allow you to show your true potential. You might have had a chance if you played one of the few comps in which you are viable.

Off meta specs will be forced to play in the LFG bracket if they want to be somehow competitive and to have fun. Back to square one!

On the contrary, FOTM classes will thrive and will face each other again and again. Are you tired to face mages and warriors all the time? Brace yourself, it is gonna be WORSE if soloqueue happens.

We want soloqueue because we just wanna play the game right?

So why not just change the extremely outdated LFG tool and make it nice and intuitive? IMO if it is done properly, it should be more than enough to fix the current problem.

Edit: I am not saying you shouldn't play soloqueue. I just say is not as perfect as people think it will be.

Posted Apr 6, 2021, 11:53 AM UTC · edited

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iQonic2.6 multiclass•

Lmao what, ofcourse some classes have it easier than others but it has more to do with the fact that classes like warrior have an easier time playing with randoms, no voice. You know what's boring? Sitting in Oribos for 2 hours straight.

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jazmajMulti-Combatant•

Soloque will breed another set of problems people aren't ready for.

Only way to get your average reddit 1600 pvper happy is to mail them a gladiator mount when they subscribe to the game.

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mane1234•

Title as well pls?

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Toastymallowz•

And I'm gonna need some 233 weapons if we're talking about free stuff

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WATISDIS2112•

*1400 pvper

1600 for R1 title or riot

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alibeg0v•

hahahah this is best comment ive read on this subreddit lmao true 100%

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MoocowR1200 RBGS•

Soloque will breed another set of problems people aren't ready for.

I rather be able to queue into a shitty arena bracket than not queue at all 90% of my arena queues in SL have already been at 1500mmr with IRL friends who are totally new to arena or carrying randoms who are stuck in the 1300's.

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DiscountPSEdits•

No you wouldn’t. Stop trying to selfishly kill the game. Make some fucking friends and queue.

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MoocowR1200 RBGS•

No you wouldn’t.

Yes I would.

Stop trying to selfishly kill the game

This is kind of ironic considering most people who are in favor of soloq think it would do the opposite.

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mstvr•

Make some fucking friends and queue.

Any tips? You seem like a people person.

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wwydtr•

Lol it’s not killing the game, grow up.

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Mellun12I'm really not that good at the game•

The question is will the problems of solo queue outweigh the problems of current LFG? I think that...

  • Frequent balance changes
  • Better looking sets (class sets please)
  • Seasonal tabards/weapon enchants given out for your rating bracket that you end the season in
  • Rating decay once you hit a certain rank (probably glad)
  • Better gear system (hello WoD PvP system)
  • Better LFG system

...would do 10x more for the game than just Blizzard adding solo queue. But it doesn't have to be one or the other. All these things in addition to a solo option would be awesome, but if I had to decide which changes I'd want to see first it would be the ones listed above.

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Wicked-Chomps•

My opinion solo q should only be used for two modes, RBG's And bring back 5v5 arena

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iQonic2.6 multiclass•

Yeah, brilliant. 2 brackets no1 gives a shit about.

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Mellun12I'm really not that good at the game•

You can just not play solo queue if it ever released and stick to pre-mades. The point is for the option to be there.

Solo queue is going to go like this: Wait 5 minutes for a game, play a 1 minutes game, wait another 5 minutes. The losses are going to feel awful, especially when you get paired up with an Outlaw Rogue and a MW while you face WMPala.

Despite those flaws, its easy to see why people want it, and those who don't could just choose not to play it.

I'd rather see an LFG overhaul than a solo queue. I also think it's a more realistic expectation to have since PvE players complain about LFG too, so Blizzard might throw us a bone. But at the end of the day solo queue seems like an easy to add option, especially since they kind of have it with skirmishes. Slap some achievements, and MMR/CR on that bad boy and ba-bam (and break it up into 2s/3s).

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Coach_XavOP•

You're right. It is probably easier to fix something that exists already than creating a new system from scratch!

Solo queue is going to go like this: Wait 5 minutes for a game, play a 1 minutes game, wait another 5 minutes. The losses are going to feel awful, especially when you get paired up with an Outlaw Rogue and a MW while you face WMPala.

That!

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iVladi2.4k Healer•

Off meta specs will be forced to play in the LFG bracket if they want to be somehow competitive and to have fun. Back to square one!

As opposed to not playing at all - like now?

So why not just change the extremely outdated LFG tool and make it nice and intuitive? IMO if it is done properly, it should be more than enough to fix the current problem.

This should be done alongside solo queue

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beniswarriorTrash•

How the fuck do you 'not play at all' as a healer?

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SendMePicsOfMustard•

simple solution: don't play soloq IF it ever comes.

I don't understand why people are against a new mode, when they don't have to play it. You lose nothing.

It's like people crying about how boring classic will be 2 years ago. Just don't play it and let others enjoy it.

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Coach_XavOP•

I am not crying, just saying that soloqueue might not be the perfect messiah that will save wow PvP

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SendMePicsOfMustard•

of course it is not and I don't think any reasonable person ever said that.

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Gnoetv•

Warriors would have an absolute blast with solo q I bet

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tavil85•

People don't want soloqueue because it'll be a perfect solution they want it because it beats not playing the game.

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Cranky_Grandpa•

I'd rather be bored and playing the game versus bored sitting in LFG for literal hours trying to play the game.

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killian_jenkins2.5 uhdk•

Off meta specs will be forced to play in the LFG bracket if they want to be somehow competitive and to have fun. Back to square one!

Bro you clearly have no idea how bad the situation for off meta specs is right now. Being told to play 'x' spec, getting NOT invited to groups because of it.

Idc if we face meta classes all the time as long as I actually get to have the CHANCE to face them

So why not just change the extremely outdated LFG tool and make it nice and intuitive? IMO if it is done properly, it should be more than enough to fix the current problem.

This is true though

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poop-fart-puke•

then dont play it

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u anti solo q people are the worst i swear all of your arguments are dog butt

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why would u cry about something if u dont have to play it? i dont like dungeons but i dont sit here and cry about them, i just dont play them.

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NEWS FLASH.. if solo Q is implemented you wont be forced to play it.

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where did u guys get this idea that u would be forced to play solo q?

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s00p3r_str8•

No one is expecting it to be a perfect solution but it's a start.

At least you'll be able to play games instead of spending all day looking for team mates.

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meharryp•

this would also likely lead to a horrible elo hell existing, where if you're a couple weeks late to the season, even if you do play a meta class you're gonna be stuck with other non-meta classes, and if you're queuing as a healer it'd be even worse

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Basturina•

Implement a better LFG tool and give us solo queue. They could even add a filter so you can exclude some specs from grouping with you (2-3 max).

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Jesh010•

Oh look this “argument” again lol. Your complaints are remedied by spec specific ratings. The idea has been outlined a few times, check out Savix’s vid where he in depth goes through all the things blizz would need for soloQ.

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Mellun12I'm really not that good at the game•

Savix does make good points about spec specific ratings. However one issue would definitely be players griefing games on their off spec just to play against noobs.

Riot tried role specific ratings, and they got rid of it immediately. That's because if I'm a top lane main and I get put in my off role I'm not going to care if I lose and the quality of the ladder would go to shit.

It would be the same for WoW. It's quite possible to have a glad level Mage player sit 1500 on Arcane so he can power grind conquest/honor, and swap to fire if he wants to climb. He would grief games to keep his MMR/CR low on Arcane, which would ruin the experience for many other players.

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Coach_XavOP•

I mean, the idea is good, but realistically speaking, what are the chances blizzard doing that? They can't even fix the MC bug 😂

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Jesh010•

Very good point LOL

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camelCaseRocks•

You idiots just don't get it. You know what's more boring than solo queue? Running laps around oribos for a fucking hour and then logging off.

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Coach_XavOP•

Well my friend, we do get it :) and in a more polite and constructive way than you do apparently ;)

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camelCaseRocks•

The bar is on the floor. People are unsubbing and you're all still bickering about how solo queue won't work. In every other game, if you're in queue for more than 3 minutes, it's considered an eternity and unacceptable.

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Mellun12I'm really not that good at the game•

That's quite the hyperbole. I constantly have 5+ minute queues in both LoL and VALORANT, in VALORANT sometimes up to 10 depending on how many people/teams are queuing.

Also I don't think queues in WoW would be nearly as fast. I'd say less than a minute for healers and 3-5 minutes for DPS. I think that's very acceptable though for the average solo queue game, so I wouldn't mind it at all.

But it could be quite annoying to wait 5 minutes, play a 1 minute game, wait another 5, etc. The pros still outweigh the cons imo.

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camelCaseRocks•

Sure, I'm exaggerating, whatever. Split hairs all you want, we're comparing reasonable 2,3,5,10 minute queues to the 30, 45, 60, 90 minutes people currently spend in LFG

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MoocowR1200 RBGS•

So why not just change the extremely outdated LFG tool and make it nice and intuitive? IMO if it is done properly, it should be more than enough to fix the current problem.

Because it's too little too late, I have 0 hope that an updated LFG tool will increases participation by any significant amount. Maybe if you combined a better LFG tool WITH solo queue, that way when players are tired of getting stomped by comp RNG they will form their own groups. But LFG by itself is too archaic and solo queue exists in every other competitive game.

You know how many people have responded to the latter point with "maybe you should go play one of those games then", that's what's been fucking happening. That's why people sit in LFG for up to hours, because a massive amount of the player base realized how dumb it was and just gave up all together for another form of entertainment.

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bill_zagoudis•

what are you even talking about?

reality check buddy: we're already unsubbed and we're not coming back for some reskin in the lfg tool

you know what won't fix this problem? idiotic posts like this

if you don't like solo q don't use it, maybe it's not for you at all (hard to grasp isn't it?)

none is happy with PvP right now, participation is dropping by the day and it's only going to get worse later in the xpansion

you know what i'm doing right now? i'm playing warhammer 2 multiplayer, why? because it has a solo Q

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Coach_XavOP•

You know what you should do? Staying on Warhammer 2 multiplayer, why? Because we don't need your toxicity on WoW :D

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bill_zagoudis•

Inb4 the Next post: pvp is dead

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AuxWasTaken2.7K SL Glad EU RDruid•

The people who have the best time in LFG are the ones who play classes who fit into every comp. Right now Hpala, Priest and Warrior are the best examples where they have a huge range of compositions that are top tier and so they're going to have an easier time searching for teams to play with. All SoloQ will do is mean that everyone finds games but these players who are playing classes that fit with many comps will find significantly more success.

SoloQ doesn't fix the issue, the reason people are struggling to fine games is because people aren't motivated to continue playing into the season and the number of people playing is dropping. Massive inbalance, terrible alt system and a poor LFG system all contribute. SoloQ has become a scapegoat for people to use and honestly I wish I believed it would suddenly fix all the problems but it won't. I see in all the AWC streams people spamming for it, until Blizzard shows they care about PvP and puts even 5% of the effort you see for other big competitive games like LoL, CS:GO or similar then things will continue to be garbage.

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