Strategy for transitioning from 3* to 4* questions

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I was hoping people would have some more modern advice on how to transition from 3* to 4*. I've got the 2* champ farm cycling, and have all 3*, 24 of which are champed. Most of the champs are a handful of stronger/more useful for my current teams, as well as ones that just popped up the most. I've got one 5* Yellowjacket(unleveled so I don't hose my pvp matchmaking)

  1. Is it worth continuing to champ the 3*? Iso is becoming rare and I can't keep up with them all.

  2. Should I continue to use tokens when I have the hero points to add another 4* ? Or save them and do a mass pull, to get a larger fully covered 4* stable? Currently I've got Polaris with 10 covers, and a handull with 4, but the bulk of my 4s are 1-2 covers, and are fairly unusable.

  3. Is it worth more ISO to sell the assorted 1*s I get from tokens upon pulling them, or max covering them then selling to get rank xp and get the rewards from that?

  4. Are there any guidelines of when to change SCL tiers? Typically if I have the 4* required, I end up somewhere in the top10. If not top 25-30ish. I've tried 5 in the past and it was rough, though it may be easier now, but the rewards didn't seem to be much different to make the time investment worthwhile.

  5. If anyone has any generally useful advice or things I may be missing I'd appreciate the info!

Thank you all.

Posted Apr 10, 2021, 7:08 AM UTC

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LilShir•

Without the HP from your 3* champs, it’s gonna be a looooooong ride rostering all the 4s. Champ them all and fave the one closest to HP reward, rinse, repeat.

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testsubjectOP•

I'll work on that, but ISO is so dear right now. I had hundreds of thousands before, but I am constantly out, and immediately chucking it back into my 2* farm, or putting some in my 3*.

I feel like what I really need is another decently covered/leveled 4* or two to help round out my roster, or at least give me some options.

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LilShir•

It’s gonna take you a really long time to get a few 4’s to 13 covers. By the time I had three ready to champ (juggs/polaris/grocket) I had millions of ISO sitting by waiting, I think it was around 8mil. I champed all three and I haven’t hit the ISO shortage since! I’ve champed 32 4’s and I have 4.5mil of ISO still.

What I’m saying is, it takes a long time to build 4’s, and you’ve got a lot of rewards you’ll be missing out on from your 3’s. Soon your ISO will start piling up because those 4 covers are slow. ISO shortage will come, but you’re far away from it. I’ll probably have around 45 4’s champed before it happens to me. So I feel the best thing is to champ those 3’s, pick up the champ rewards, play eveything (pvp/pve, pick up every reward you can), it pays off.

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testsubjectOP•

I'm already at the point where I am just out of ISO. I'm playing daily, completing pve, trying to do 40+ pvps per event except lightning rounds which I will do at least 5 in if I can, and have bonus rewards active.

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Daiches•
  1. Is it worth continuing to champ the 3*? Iso is becoming rare and I can't keep up with them all.

Yes, very much so. They feed your 4s and they are a farm as well.

  1. Should I continue to use tokens when I have the hero points to add another 4* ? Or save them and do a mass pull, to get a larger fully covered 4* stable? Currently I've got Polaris with 10 covers, and a handull with 4, but the bulk of my 4s are 1-2 covers, and are fairly unusable.

No, definitely not mass pull. Covers expire, tokens don’t. You are still rostering 4s. Only pull when you can afford a slot. Be wary you are also getting 4s from events and from 3star champ rewards. So keep an eye out for those as well.

  1. Is it worth more ISO to sell the assorted 1*s I get from tokens upon pulling them, or max covering them then selling to get rank xp and get the rewards from that?

Depends on your rank. If you’re below Shield rank 100, you can do that to go a little faster. Once you’re above that, it’s a waste of your time.

  1. Are there any guidelines of when to change SCL tiers? Typically if I have the 4* required, I end up somewhere in the top10. If not top 25-30ish. I've tried 5 in the past and it was rough, though it may be easier now, but the rewards didn't seem to be much different to make the time investment worthwhile.

Play the tier where progression rewards give you the best return. You’re going for 4stars. You should be in SCL7 (when you have the 5) at least.

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Sombrero-DeLaNuit•

We seem to be at the same point (i have eleven covers for Polaris) ... I mostly play scl 9 both for pve and pvp... so it seems that my others 4* are progressing much faster than yours... I play mostly for progression but I watch ranking to get some hp too...

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BuGambit•

Damn, I only play SCL7 and I've got Polaris and the other big 4s champed. I go for placement though, typically finishing top 5 to earn 2 covers and some shards for a 4-star. Do you feel like progression from SCL9 is helping you make noticeable progress?

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AwesomeScreenName•

For PVP , play the highest SCL you’re eligible for. The matches aren’t any easier if you drop to a lower SCL but the rewards are worse.

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testsubjectOP•

I didn't realize that, I assumed it was harder. Thank you!

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AwesomeScreenName•

I should note that because so many people go to SCL 10, placement is harder. But there are better progression rewards. So there is something of a tradeoff between getting a higher placement in SCL 9 but worse progression rewards or lower placement in SCL 10 but better progression rewards.

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testsubjectOP•

Not an option, I think the highest I can go is scl7 or maybe 8

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testsubjectOP•

I don't think I'm high enough rank to do SCL 9, but I'll try doing a harder level PVE. I think my issue then is I will end up using a lot of health packs for PVE and can't use them for PVP.

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Sombrero-DeLaNuit•

I don't know really... I have asked myself the same question... I have concluded that I should go for lower scl if I wanted more hp from high ranking and I did not care for the 4* cover... but if you look at scl9 rewards you get 3 3* cover from progression alone and also a little more hp... moreover I like the game to be little challenging and some nodes are hard to beat... but you can get full progression reward without beating all of them... so in the end I am scl9 for punisher max pve while I loathe the (comics) character and I think I will flush him after the event... Also I am pairing Polaris with Grocket 3/5/1 which is really helpful ...

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Sombrero-DeLaNuit•

Well I must add that using 5* pizza dog support currently level 172 is also very helpful in saving health pack... I must have been very lucky on this one... also medusa currently 3/3/3 proved helpful in saving health pack... but I acquired her quite recently (I bought SCL9 bundle which gives 6 covers for her)

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testsubjectOP•

I only have level 3, but even with that heal it is only one character sadly.

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Sombrero-DeLaNuit•

My RG4* is higher level than Polaris and is the shield... the support is on them...

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testsubjectOP•

I only have Polaris with any number of covers worth using for 4stars, and I don't have any grocket4 sadly, so not really viable.

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