just got a random "reasonable assurance for school employee" form but I never worked in a school setting... anybody else got this one? asking about reasons for termination (something that i was twice in adjudication...), pay rate and so on....
Posted Apr 10, 2021, 11:20 AM UTC
I just received this notice last night as well and I'm STILL working at my school/Employer (higher ed - as a staff not a faculty). I don't think I will fill out something that requires that I enter the end date of my employment when I'm still employed. That makes no sense.
Did they just cast a wide net? I'd love to know. This is nerve wrecking.
It's probably because schools are reopening and they are trying to establish who was just put on hold and so on. But yeah they casted this as wide as possible. My end date was at the end 2019! Have nothing with covid and my work place has only in the name something related with school!
It is very weird, is even weirder in the large scope of things that this was sent out the week before some counties might be reverted back to phase 2 and some School Employees may be affected.
You would think that you would want to send this out after counties had reverted to phase 2, otherwise right now it will not apply to a lot of people that it could otherwise apply to in one week
I received a notification of the form yesterday (I worked in K-12). I haven't gone through the entire form, but opened it to see if all the questions were visible - but no, it is one of those answer this required question and then you can move on to the next required question. I've searched online to for a list of the questions, but didn't find anything. It would be helpful (for me) to see all the questions at once. Are there any questions that require uploading documents?
Well it asks in the end if you have a document to upload. The questions to the best of my memory were job description, start and end date, if you were terminated or expected to return after a period.
What I did to be able to see all the questions was open the form and answer the questions, and then cancel the form before submitting.
If you work in a school there are specific rules for UI due to people usually knowing they will have a job at the end of breaks. If you are not a contracted school employee and you don’t have a commitment to your job after a break, you qualify for UI. If you do have a written commitment for work, you may not qualify. Rules in this area are pretty challenging to work through.
Yeah I think it is WA state covering themselves with the federal government. There is a part of the law that says if the pay is considerably less even with reasonable assurance then the person should get UI.
I think everyone who worked in a school got this regardless of the job. I worked in a community college (non-teaching, I was in marketing) and I got this letter. I think it has something to do with teachers often getting seasons off and they want to make sure that everyone still qualifies, but they painted a broad stroke.
they painted a broad stroke
I did a temp job for a school for a few months and I got it. I have no open opportunity to return to work for the school. I have gone into adjudication three times and lost my benefits for at least 20 weeks over the course of this pandemic. I really don't want that to happen again. I just got them back again two weeks ago. Argh!
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ESD Site for Reasonable Assurance Rules - Click on FINAL RULE, CONCISE EXPLANATION
Did you fill it out and submit it? Some of the questions are strange, for example:
Describe any change from the work performed in the prior term or academic period (wages, hours, duties, etc.):
I didn't get that question
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In the section UI&PUA
Reasonable Assurance from School Fact Finding Questions + Applicable laws
ESD Site for Reasonable Assurance Rules - Click on FINAL RULE, CONCISE EXPLANATION
In the section Appeals, Appeal Templates
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One of my clients who works for a school responded to this kind of fact finding in September 2020 and was disqualified erroneously, appealed and is awaiting an appeal date and even she received this fact finding again. So, this is another example similar to u/strawberrycosmos1 of a claimant who possibly should not have received the fact finding request.
So... this is from 2 months ago, but I can tell you the state sent out so many of these to ppl who really should not have received them. Likely due to the high number of temp employees at the state and high number of claims filed by educational facility employees who are not considered classified staff. Reasonable assurance would deny benefits based on wages earned from an accredited educational institution during the time frame indicated on the form if you worked for an school before the break and were given assurance you would return in the same/similar capacity after the break.
If you get one for summer recess period but are not employed by a school, respond saying no wages earned from an educational institution not employed by educational institution during time period referenced no reasonable assurance. Not a school employee.
I also got it, but I worked in higher education. That form is poorly worded and scares me a bit, but I filled it out as best as I could.
I did the same but I should had probably written more clearly that I never worked for a school in the job description...
So no K-12 or higher education? It is weird you got that form. I still think it is very random and I am not sure of the purpose. They have all that information from when we first applied for unemployment.
Yeah just the name of the company has anything related with education but was just the name!
Poorly worded is right! I was so confused and now have crazy anxiety that I did not answer the questions right. I did what you did and filled it out to the best I could. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. I was shitting a brick thinking something was way wrong. Now I see so many people got it.