Tips to flatten out downswing for inside-out striking?
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v.redd.itPosted Apr 18, 2021, 1:01 PM UTC
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v.redd.itI’d think about fixing the club face first. I’m honestly surprised you’re able to make decent contact, so props to you, but your so wide open in the downswing. Flattening your swing won’t really help much. The steepness of your swing right now is actually to your benefit.
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Sorry I don’t understand what that means about fixing the club face?
Someone else here said to try sliding my back foot back a bit. I know right now at address I’m pretty open, so you think that would help being less open on the downswing?
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So club face control is super important. You need to have a square club face (or somewhat square club face) at impact. Check this out.
Once you have the club face control down, you can focus on the swing plane.
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You are going to have to fix the clubface first. It is way way too open
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Yeah that’s priority #1 for me from other comments. Thank you!
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Just to expand on why face is #1. Your face is open due to a combination of grip and wrist conditions. Those are 2 of the 3 biggest movements that affect face angle. The 3rd one is lead arm supination (rotating your left forearm to palm up), which also happens to be an extreme steepening move. You are forced to be steep (over the top) because you're needing the supination to square the face. If you strengthen your grip and add some lead wrist flexion (bowing) you can start shallowing.
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Thank you so much 😊
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Slide back foot back a couple inches (towards ur back side) and try to hit the ball to second base.
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You get the club face very open in the backswing. Once you do that, all bets are off. Without any compensations in downswing, with an open face and out-to-in path in downswing, you'll likely hit push slices (ball will start right of target and then curve farther right).
I suggest step one should be to fix your clubface, and then step two should be working in your path (eliminating your over the top move).
For club face in backswing, here are a couple of checkpoints. Just after takeaway when club shaft is parallel to ground, try to feel like the club face points more to the ground than the sky. For instance, have the club face approximately match your spine tilt.
At top of backswing, avoid having toe of club pointing straight to the ground. Instead, the club face should be pointing to the sky more (not fully facing sky but somewhere in between the two).
Opening club face in backswing is likely due to a combination of two things: rolling your forearms/arms clockwise in takeaway and bending your wrist back as opposed to up (basically rolling them clockwise).
Fix that club face then work on path.
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Thanks. This was really helpful visualizing issues others pointed out about helping club face. Just walked through my usual swing and definitely rotate my arms pulling back. Will work on this for sure
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Hit the range for a small bucket and noticed a huge improvement incorporating your advice. Took a step back from the ball and Really focused on not rolling arms. Checked club face was around spine angle when parallel with the ground/at hip level. And after that feeling was getting better I continued to the top and notice the club face was more idtentical to my wrist angle and the toe wasn’t point straight down.
Was having some trouble transitioning down from this point but it’s start! The ones I was able to keep smooth were definitely going straight instead of fading . Thanks a lot. Think this is a good start to better form. I think this paired with standing a little further back helped get more flat on the downswing and should hopefully keep improving with practice!
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That's good to hear. It's not necessary to have a "perfect" club face, but yours was too far to one extreme. I hope you stick with it. Hard to play good golf with open face and over the top move.
To help with your over the top transition, one thing you could try is to keep your back to target in downswing. This is just a feel to help avoid your shoulders spinning too early (and swinging over the top).
Good luck.
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still working on the club face, its less open than it was, but still open. Your tip on the over the top worked really well. I tried holding the shoulders back as long as i could until momentum took over, but the results was more of an in to out and a dead straight bomb: https://imgur.com/a/i5tniGT
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Over the top to the extreme, open club face throughout your swing and early extension to compensate and make contact. A lot of disparaging of the usual comments to “get lessons,” but rings true. A lot of swing issues here that shouldn’t be fixed via Reddit comments.
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I’m mean yeah. That’s why I was hoping some people would be kind and give me things to work on.
Some of them sound like great advice to work on and at least test before shelling out money on lessons.
If I try incorporating these for a couple of weeks and don’t see progress then I’ll probably look into getting lessons. I’m in the best shape of my life and have the coordination and flexibility to make changes, just needed some guidance from others on what those changes should be.
That’s what I don’t get about here. Obviously lessons would be more than beneficial, but there is a lot of knowledge here that can be shared and help people get past that first lesson or two. Save some money for the courses ya know
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Recently got back into golf. This is the swing that I don’t have to think about and feels natural to me.
Want to make sure I’m efficient at practice so would greatly appreciate any tips I can focus on to flatten out my downswing and try to strike more inside out.
For reference this is an 8 iron and I can consistently hit it about 150 with a fade that lands straight. I have consistent dispersion and yardage gaps from the PW through the 6 iron with this swing, but anything past the 5 iron gets inconsistent.
Thanks for any tips. Don’t be too harsh lmao, I’ve only been at it two weeks since an 8 year hiatus. But I’m determined to get better!
As of now, the top thing I think I need to do is try standing a little farther back, and/or utilize my legs more at transition to drop the plane faster in the downswing.
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Set up super closed to the ball, but intend to hit it straight. Setting up really closed will give you more room to bring the club down inside. Start to feel that feeling of the club dropping inside, and slowly start opening up back to square carrying that feeling of your shoulder dropping down and not at the ball, through.
Right now you’re really open, which is giving you even less room to come down in to out
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The best thing that’s helped me after dealing with a steep down swing is to think of driving the right elbow at the ball
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That’s probably the most open faced downswing I’ve ever seen. Backswing is really good, you can’t shallow the club with the face that open, you’ll hit it farther right than you will down range.
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Best tip is a lesson from a certified PGA professional.
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I mean, you're fine until your start your downswing. You start it by flexing your wrists and then bringing your hands out towards the ball.
This forces the club head outside and you have no other option.
Take your backswing and stop. Let the club head and your wrists set and get further away from the back of your head. Slightly open your hips, then bring your arms through along with the rest of your hip turn and get your chest facing the target.
This should help you learn to shallow and keep your path correct. From there you can fix your club face issue.
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So wrong
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After an 8 year hiatus the swing doesn’t look horrible... With that being said, it looks like you’re right up on the ball with your setup. Move back from the ball 1 maybe 2 inches more. That should help a bit. And a thought that I keep in my head when I start to get a steeper swing is to keep my aim on the ball at 7 o’clock (looking at the back of the ball). This seems to always flatten my swing into a more workable position and helps eliminate the power fade somewhat.
And remember...have fun with it! Just keep swinging.
Thanks appreciate it! Will do. Trying to get back on the range in a day or two and will try these out
Flimsy, I appreciate you providing him with actual feedback and advice rather than the normal “get a lesson” response that 95% of these posts receive.
As for OP, check out GG swing tips on YouTube. Gankas has a few drills that should help flatten that swing out for you. Keep at it!
None of the popular GG tips will help him until he addresses the face. Take it from GG himself: https://youtu.be/Patp5kbYOoU. If the face is too open, you can't rotate, and rotation is the entire concept behind his shallowing.
The downswing actually does look pretty horrible.