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ull92

Who is Spielman going to trade up for tonight?

Spielman has all but confirmed they plan to trade up, so who are they targeting?

I would guess a DE, but there aren't many remaining who i personally think would be worth it. Potentially Ossai or Basham.

Corner could be another position with Samuel, Melifonwu, Campbell, and Robinson on the board.

Safety has Moehrig, Cisco, and Grant still available.

Or maybe it's a QB. Mond is still there and Spielman has made it known we're looking for one.

If it's OL, i could see them targeting Meinerz, Trey Smith, Davis, or even Dickerson after they mentioned size a lot after taking Darrisaw.

I don't see them trading up for a WR, DT, LB, RB, or TE.

What do you think?

Posted Apr 30, 2021, 3:04 PM UTC · edited

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CosmicPterodactyl•

Am I crazy to say that unless you have a prospect that falls and you have rated in that top-40 range, you should just stand pat?

I'd rather take four shots in the 3rd than use 66+90 to trade up. I'm always a fan of four solid shots in the 3rd versus three shots in the 2nd/3rd.

I wouldn't be shocked if a prospect like Meinerz, Dickerson, Samuel, Holland, or Nixon were sitting right there at 66 for us. Then you still have pick 90 (one pick below where we drafted Dantzler last year) to play with, which could justify a luxury like finally getting a real developmental / back-up QB like Trask/Mond/Mills.

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ull92OP•

Not crazy at all, but it kind of depends on how the board falls, I'm sure.

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ZenVacuum1•

Teven Jenkins or GTFO!!!

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Throebach•

I think a trade up could be for defense. Gotta make Zim happy as it appears Zim was hoping for someone else other than Darrisaw, maybe Phillips, Paye or even Farley.. Maybe they go for Ossai.

Personally, I'd hope for Meinerz, Davis or Dickerson (despite his injuries) in round 2 just to finish that Line up.

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DudeAbides29•

I would like to draft one of the safeties or one of the centers in the 2nd round. The OL could look good (dare I say?) if we bump Bradbury out to guard.

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ull92OP•

I don't think a move to guard benefits Bradbury or the team. The only way to help him and the OL is to find some decent guards.

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DudeAbides29•

I was hoping Bradbury could be a Joe Berger type and find success as a guard instead of center. If he’s locked in at that position then Wyatt Davis and Trey Smith should be on our radar today.

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ull92OP•

Yeah, just my opinion, but i don't think Bradbury would be good at guard. Could be wrong.

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DudeAbides29•

All good. It’s not like I know how to identify good OL talent either. All I know is when they’re bad 😆

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benigntugboatvikings•

Rookie centers almost always have trouble. They have so much more to learn about the playbook and opposing teams schemes than other lineman, while having to learn the physical side that already gives lineman a hard time. I think wed ve much better off having bradbury be center this year even if it doesnt workout longterm. If rick annd zim dont think he's improving id be ok with taking a center like creed humohrey but i think wed still play the rookie at guard and let them acclimate to the nfl before switching them to center next year. Im also still really curious how bradbury looks with decent guards tbh

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TheBigSandeenie•

I don't think this is all that realistic but I would love getting JOK. He could be our 3rd linebacker in those sets, or he could play saftey/nickel in other sets.

I'd love us to grab a OG yet and I think Rick and Zim want to as well but there are not many guards worth trading up for in the second round that are good scheme fits as almost everyone OG in the 2-3 round range is more of a power blocker with limited athleticism. The three OG I could see us target would be Dillon Radunz(if they think he can be a guard I know he's more of a natural tackle) Quinn Meinerz, and Ben Cleveland.

Otherwise Moehrig would be a good fit at S I think but we'd need to just up to early second round for him.

Ifeatu Melifonwu isn't perfect but I'm sure his physical traits have Zim drooling and I've anyone can clean up his technique and get the most out of him it would be Zim so I wouldn't hate taking him.

There's not really any standout DE's worth trading up for so while I know that's a need I just don't see that being the target at this point.

Yeah I could see other CB's being in the mix. I'm not crazy about undersized corners but Asante Samuel Jr seems legit and his dad was a beast.

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ull92OP•

Love JOK.

I really like Trey Smith for guard. He's a lot more athletic than I expected.

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sunnuvadutchRandy Moss Moonshine•

I’m thinking we trade up with New England 66 + 78 for 46 or Kansas City 86 + 90 + 157 for 58.

I think for New England our targets are Dickerson, Wyatt Davis, Humphrey, Moehrig, JOK, and Rondale/Elijah Moore

I think for KC our targets are the same + Meinerz and Trey Smith.

I could also see us saying put at and flipping pick 78 or 86 into a 2022 2nd rounder. Just like I think we’ll try to flip a 4th rounder into a future 3rd rounder.

Idk, but I’m stoked for today. All this round 3 and 4 capital with a GM you know loves making moves.... this is gonna be the slickest of days

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SurlyWet•

Great question. My answer: Best player you can get. But probably choosing from edge, guard, safety, defensive under tackle.

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ull92OP•

I just think DT isn't going to be that much of a priority for them after signing Tomlinson, but we do need more pass rush, so maybe that's how they think they'll get it. Barmore, Onwuzurike, and Nixon are still there and Milton Williams is a sleeper.

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SurlyWet•

Of course it would be about interior pass rush...

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ull92OP•

Well, we don't have any pass rushers outside of Hunter, unless they really believe Wonnum is ready. So, DE seems like the best place to get pass rush.

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SurlyWet•

Totally agree but no need to be specific. Just get the best one at either spot.

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moldy_78•

Have you seen the quote from Patterson where he says they don't ask DTs to penetrate and pass rush? That opened my eyes a bit as to the strategy with Pierce/DT

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SurlyWet•

No, what are they, spies? Strange.

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skolaenSKOL•

Personallh the 2 guys i really want are moherig and wyatt davis but we'd need to trade up a decent amount to get both let alone even 1 of them

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HugeRaspberry•

I would think that if we move up it is for a Center / Guard type or LB (Cox) - not a qb.

Safety is a def need.

LB / Edge.

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secretbonus1•

Zimmer said that Rick told him there are 500 fewer players declared for the draft this year...

So 4th round is the new 7th round.

He might trade back in the 3rd a lot.

Then all the picks after 4th rounder he can trade for 2022 picks or use to trade up...

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stefonsshindiggs•

No, we are not looking for a QB.

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areallybigshrimp•

Yes, we are. We don’t have a back up and Kirk isn’t going to be around forever so why not find someone with high upside that could sit a few years behind Kirk? Might not be targeting one in the second round but we have multiple 3rd and 4th round picks that I think could very likely be a QB

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schwertfeger•

We tried to trade up for Fields and they have been looking at mid round guys all off season. You can pretend they are not but they are.

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ull92OP•

In multiple press conferences now, Spielman has alluded to targeting a QB pretty high. Just last night a reporter asked him about passing on "a top 5 QB" in Mac Jones and he said "we'll see what happens tomorrow." I think they very well could be targeting a QB.

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shwrealtor•

You apparently aren't familiar with coach speak and draft misdirection...

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ull92OP•

I'm well aware of when Spielman is trying to deceive. I've watched probably every single one of his press conferences going back to when he hired Zimmer. I've been a regular contributor to this sub since 2013 (was under a different name before). I know things. They've been looking at QBs all off-season. We don't have a backup. Kirk is getting older and closer to the end of his contract. Getting a developmental QB to either take the helm or trade away for draft capital is exactly the kind of move everyone here has been wanting them to make for a decade. They are absolutely in the market for a QB and trading up to secure their favorite while also having plenty of picks at their disposal makes a ton of sense.

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shwrealtor•

It seems you are forgetting our draft pick last year in Stanley. As well as Browning.

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shwrealtor•

What makes sense and what Rick and Zim usually do aren't very often aligned.

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