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OpticalVortex

Retroactively rewatching Glee, realizing that Finn Hudson foreshadows his death quite often, especially in his ominous words and actions--- Every act and feel deliberate and foreboding

Is it just me or looking at Glee now, knowing that Finn dies young, the entire series, Finn foreshadows his early death quite often. Like, paranormally, Finn can sense that he wasn't going to live a long life, not long enough to succeed. That's why he was so afraid of being a Lima Loser because that's now how he wanted to be seen, known, and remembered for. Even in this scene, he mentions that he wants Rachel to remember him when he gave her the present every time she wears them. He also tells Santana that they're just in high school, that these feelings may not last forever, as if he catches himself in his secret with Santana. The sharing of this secret to Santana deepens how strongly she meant to him--- she was his first and the only one he confided in that he presumptively knows deep down that he would die young and within a year or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EorTOMIPAKY

Posted May 10, 2021, 6:36 AM UTC

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OpticalVortexOP•

It's crazy to watch this show now, knowing everything about it and not seeing the meanings behind it after everything that is said and done. Yes, Finn was never meant to die, but he did die, and that changes a lot of the genetic markers for the character. Many of the scenes support that Finn was meant to die young because of all the foreshadowing it telegraphed. The Puck potentially getting embroiled in CP and being jailed or dead by 2030 was insane. And, of course, the manifestation of Naya singing If I Die Young at Finn's tribute when her body was found inside a body of water on his anniversary was insane. Like Santana and Finn, Naya and Cory were spiritually bounded forever.

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OtherSide4The Troubletones•

Yess when Puck said “in jail, or dead, or both” when Will asked where you’ll be in 2030

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missdabus•

Wasn’t it revealed that Finns father actually died of an overdose? It’s all so chilling

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TomidnightHarmony•

im not 100% sure but I think Ryan added that line to get Cory off his addiction

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theartofnbミ☆•

Yeah, I find that there’s a lot of ominous foreshadowing on the show. There’s even YouTube compilations about them.

On one of my rewatches shortly after Naya’s death, I just noticed two really somber foreshadowing lines about her. I mean no disrespect, I love her so much. But it’s quite chilling when during Summer Nights Sam sings “I saved her life, she nearly drowned” and it immediately cuts to Santana. Of all lines, of all cuts, of all characters.

And then in S6’s A Wedding when Brittany says “I don’t want to end up like Jack and Rose”. It’s just weird to me - of all things to say, of all references.

It’s really heartbreaking.

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OpticalVortexOP•

Damn that's depressing. Someone on YouTube, shortly after Naya passed away, pointed out that if you watch their New Directions performance of We Are The Champions, the lineup of the six singers of that song's chosen lyrics neatly lines up with their destined deaths or life paths.

The singers in order are: Cory Mark Naya Lea Chris Dianna

Cory- a man's slippery slope with addiction (I've paid my dues Time after time)

Mark- a guilty man proclaiming innocence (I've done my sentence But committed no crime)

Naya- a good woman who has made mistakes (And bad mistakes I've made a few)

Lea- a really bad person who will fight to be on top (I've had my share of sand Kicked in my face But I've come through)

Chris- a reflective thoughtful person who despite it all, is thankful for the fame given to him (I've taken my bows And my curtain calls You brought me fame and fortune And everything that goes with it I thank you all)

Dianna- a real fighter who has been wronged, a casualty (But it's been no bed of roses No pleasure cruise)

I hope Naya ended the bad pattern we've seen. Cory died 8 years ago, and in 8 years, three of the original New Directions are already dead before the age of 35. That's disturbing to me that casts an ominous shadow in that show.

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SerRonald69•

Oh man, this gave me chills ):

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OpticalVortexOP•

It really does. Sad thing is, my eyes always gravitated towards three performers, two of which died. Cory (really had star quality in a way no other male member had, especially in Don't Stop Believin and Somebody to Love. Dianna and Naya were the other two. They were movie stars stuck on TV.

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theartofnbミ☆•

They were movie stars stuck on TV.

100% - it’s so true and so sad. Dianna seems to be doing well now, she’s finding good film projects to work on and I’m really happy for her.

I once saw a comment imagining that Cory would have had a career similar to Chris Pratt and I agree completely.

A while ago, we also learned that Naya was the choice to play Katniss in the Hunger Games before directors changed. She would’ve killed it in blockbusters - she had the screen presence and the talent and it pains me to think of all the wasted potential and the movie break that she deserved.

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Manderie22•

Same here!

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m1b2c3•

Finn's story parallels Shue so imo there was no foreshadowing of death 1. because they were not planning on him dying and 2. his arc was to accept his role in Lima like Shue did. I mean the end was not to have him leave but to have Rachel return so he was fully invested in Lima.

Plus the deleted scene is not canon anyway.

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OpticalVortexOP•

I will never forget that scene. It hurt so much. Ryan, Ian, and Brad put too much of the actors' vices and insecurities into their characters.

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Wrecky85•

The scene at the end of season 1 episode 22, Journey to Regionals where they each say something before singing To Sir With Love to Mr Schue breaks my heart, because when Finn says "I didn't have a father," the way Cory's voice breaks or changes when he says "father" is so real to me. Because of growing up without his Dad being around. Felt bad Ryan made him say that.

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linnykenny•

Oh wow, I didn’t know that :(

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tossmythoughts•

It’s heartbreaking for Cory/Finn, particularly because Cory spoke a lot about how many times before he found Glee that he could have lost his life. I would need to dig, but Cory discusses tying it to Finn’s character by way of his dad. It’s not surprising it’s mentioned as much as it is.

I can’t really think about Mark the same way. There was some level of sick satisfaction from it, I think. “Look at me, hiding right under your nose.” I feel bad for his victims; he doesn’t have any of my sympathy.

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OpticalVortexOP•

I don't feel sorry for Mark. I never liked him before and Puck put me off, no matter how much they tried to rehabilitate him on the show. His predicament didn't surprise me because he was already a rapist that got away before Cory passed away.

But Cory?

He was simply way too kind to have had to suffer this fate. I believe in the afterlife and a retention of the soul from your lives on Earth. Naya being found on the day of his anniversary tells me everything about Cory and his love for Naya was genuine. His love for us, the fans was genuine. I deeply believe he had a hand in her recovery. The police had already believed she was a lost cause, never to be found again.

It tells me that Cory's soul was willing to share his anniversary with Naya, giving us less days in the year to grief. We only have the 8th and the 13th to commemorate. Even Kevin mentioned it too. He was too good of a person. Cory and Naya just didn't deserve this fate.

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